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Hi! Thunderbolt 1 Month, 2 Weeks ago Karma: 6
Hi! Sayar Gyogyee (Thunderbolt),

Glad you are still doing fine and doing the same thing.
Noticed your popularity is down and you need major changed in you small little mind.
People doesn't pay any serious attention to your posts as they used to be. You have no reply ever since when?
They don't respect you personal hateress and grudge to DASSK and some even called you Galon U Saw number two.
Pity old man.
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Re:Hi! Thunderbolt 1 Month, 1 Week ago Karma: 3
SK,

Where have you been hiding ? What have you been doing? Like Ywazaw Gyi KLhway, running between Sunngyi Loung Pwe and Thagyi Paya Hti Tin Pwe, were you?

Your own admission " Glad you are still doing fine and doing the same thing".
Now you understand what 'grudge' means. Mrs Aris or Tin Oo and others they have had personnel 'grudges' against Ne Win. To make their points.they victimised the people of Myanmar . I piointed out that was wrong,they should not do that. If you say I was wrong for pointing outtheir weakness, I will do it again gladly.

"Noticed your popularity is down and you need major changed in you small little mind".
I never seek any popularity. That's not my line. I never knew I was popular i=until you say so. If a force has to be reckoned with, it has to be reckoned with. You are making me a VIP. Thanks for lettig me know,anyway.

Now you have come back, I will be popular again. At least I can hope for.

I am also glad that you notice. But what you don't notice is that in recent days, I change my talks for the future of Myanmar, to go forward than pointing out the weaknessx of the opposition. You know why ? Because there is no legal opposition in Myanmar any more. What a shame.

If a guy like you paid serious attention to my postings, I have nothing to worry about others, who are more serious than you are. Only the half full, spills.

I am who I am, and what I am . Who ever calld me names don't bother me. Just because I call you a dog, you don't turn into a dog, do you ? Those who call names to other have nothing to talk about, they know nothing what others are talking about. They know they are the losers.

Galon U Saw was the Prime Minister of Myanmar , he was one of the leaders of Myanmar. There were many like him. Don't forget that.

What he did wrong, was wrong, killing Aung San and others or even a dog on the street, killing is killing, "thou shall not kill" it said. He did it, the same as Mrs Aris does, because he trusted the Ingalate, he thought Ingalete will help him and put him on the Myanmar throne. She will be lucky, if she has a Khway Chey to sit on in future.

Happy ?

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Re:Hi! Thunderbolt 1 Month, 1 Week ago Karma: 6
I'm fine but out of touch with Asia Observer for a while.

Oh! I see, you are fighting for the late U Ne Win. For how many years? How many postings? You become a lone wolf.

Bear it in mind that almost all Myanmars feel disgusted upon U Ne Win for what he had done to our Nation, not only Daw Su and U Tin U. Sorry if you feel offended and have special relations with the late dictator. But truth is truth my friend. I guess you are not his son. So, let's face the truth.

The truth is U Ne Win was a monster and people are happy that he was gone now. May be he is at the bottom of 8th floor hell. You can't help him. Like Hitler and Kyodo. They are finished. Even their family dare not to make decent graves for them because people will dance and spit on their graves. If not piss on their graves.

May be for you Ne Win is Kyayzushin, but for 50 million Myanmar people, Ne Win was a sickening dirty old man.
Womanizer, home wrecker, gambler, tricky betrayer, brutal dictator, irresponsible liar who brought down the country to the ditch. What else do you expect for him? Do you know why he is the only leader in Myanmar history who was overthrown by the people on the streets despite his guns and soldiers? I don't want to say more bad things about him, he's not worth. That's it.

I pity you for taking sides with him and desperately accusing other people for not paying respect to U Ne Win. My gosh! Mr. Gyo. You are sick! Don't waste your time. Enough is enough. Just forget about him. Come out from the shell and join the people to build better future for the country. U Ne Win doesn't need you anymore but PEOPLE NEED YOU!

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Re:Hi! Thunderbolt 1 Month, 1 Week ago Karma: 3
SK,

I should not be replying to you ,under normal circumstances it will be a waste of time . Let me have a look. I want to make good use of that time. After all you will make me popular won’t you . You will make me famous. You will make me a VIP.

As a matter of fact, I don’t need you SK. I have been doing find , excellent without you as you may have noticed. Instead you may be using me , don’t I know that? Why not, that is nature, people use each other . You can write and publish anything you like without mentioning my name. Why you pick me ? Because there is no body . I am the sun you are the moon. You have no light , if I am not around to give you light. .

“Now you understand what 'grudge' means. Mrs Aris or Tin Oo and others they have had personnel 'grudges' against Ne Win. To make their points. they victimised the people of Myanmar . I pointed out that was wrong, they should not do that. If you say I was wrong for pointing out their weakness, I will do it again gladly”.

Where in that paragraph where I mentioned the name Ne Win once, gave you the idea that I was fighting for him ? Which part of that whole post gave you any idea I was fighting for him or defending him . You mentioned his name seven times. In the past I merely pointed out in my own way that politic should not be about personnel matters, personnel grudges, vendetta and for vengeance. May be I did not make myself clearer. I don’t have to, because these are well known facts.

What Mrs Aris and Tin Oo did was they jumped on the wagon, they used the students, they used the people , they took the credit , and then they victimise the people , they sacrificed the people like little lambs for them to gain power, and say Mrs Aris is sacrificing herself for the people. What a load of rubbish, and self publicity. Not to forget they are western media made, product. Unfortunately for some Myanmar city dwellers, they preferred foreign made. Mrs Aris is one of them should I say.

What they did wrong were wrong, I have been pointing out and was saying that they were wrong .

Ne Win is gone , true. I don’t know where he is. But you are making him live, like Jesus Christ. You said he is in 8 th hell . How do you know? Is that where you have been while missing from Asia Observer, did you meet him, had a nice chat ? Had a good time with him? Some said, he is Resting In Peace on the seventh heaven. That may be different of opinion of course.

Where is Tin Oo and Mrs Aris now ? The longer they live the more they suffer . As long as they made the people suffer. On one of the hells on earth called Myanmar ? They have to pay for making people suffer. I think that is what they are. That is one way to look at it, Buddhist way.

Especially their life before 1988 , and now. That is the nature of Monkeys, they jumped down from the throne, because they think that throne is too high for them .
Monkeys have a right to chose, and people( human) have a right to chose. What can you say ?

You have your own interpretation, your own translation of Ne Win departure.
You don’t like him, there are other who don’t like him either. That’s normal. But you may also have personnel grudge against him or not I don‘t know.

Whatever he did , he did what he thought was right and his best.
You know very little or nothing about him, Your hatred for him blinds you. You are looking at him with one eye. Not using both eyes. Do you have your both eyes OK?

For you to say, “ for 50 million Myanmar people, Ne Win was a sickening dirty old man”. Is that not a bit too much? From where did you get that numbers?

I should not say this here , but I will ask you a question. Do you know Myanmars are very fond of clapping hands, they are good at it, very good indeed ? That is all what they know to clap hands. They will clap their hands, for you, for me , for anybody , for whatever you say whatever you do. You are talking about 50 million Myanmar people .
Before you die, I don’t know how many times you will hear more of the Myanmar clapping. They will be clapping for sure , but they hardly know what they are clapping for. Count them SK, if you can. Do you understand what I am saying ?

Look at George W Bush Jr., and Tony Blair. They did what they did, they did not care who thinks what of them. There are people like that in our world. Are you saying the world support these two? How many millions are being killed including women, children, old and sick , how many homeless, how many disabled? Thise who are killed are terrorists and their families, and sympathizers. Can you give me the numbers, you seem to be very good at numbers.

Look at Tin Oo or Mrs Aris , without me, there are those more than enough who don’t like them. I could not say 50 million, But there are quite a number of Myanmar people who hate them very bitterly, like you hate him. I have no reasons to hate him or love him , no reason to hate Tin Oo or Mrs Aris. I don’t like that for what they are doing.

What do you know about me to say that he is my, “ Kyeyzushin”. See, that sort of slandering and blundering . You say whatever comes in your mouth. You should be careful, what comes in your mouth, you hear ?

Your words are not my words SK. Your story is not mine, the readers know . Your kind of accusations are,“ Yoh Nay Bi ”, nothing new. That is the true nature of the Myanmar opposition. People know that as well, they took time to realised . 2008 they expressed their will , they answered.

What you are saying and dong now only confirms you or as you as opposition have not change. If there is somebody who is sick , I am not the one.

When you go to bed, look at yourself in the mirror and ask,“ mirror, mirror on the wall, who is the best of all. ”. The mirror will answer and say, ‘it is you SK, nobody else’. That will make you very happy.

To go forward, to the future , have a little bit of balanced and fair view, you will see the world , more clearly then now in which Myanmars is a part of it. I am not wasting my time , but you are , if you don’t know I am telling you now.

In future give me one good reason to reply to you , that is if you want. For me Tin Oo and Mrs Aris are gone, I have nothing more to say about them . Just to try and clear some people mind which may be confused.

Their own people are deserting them, I don’t need to rub in anything. You yourself is a loser SK. Do you realise that ? Think about it.

When you said , “ PEOPLE NEED YOU! Which people are you talking about, your people or my people. Because I have my own people, the people I know. Besides , Gautama Buddha said , “ thou shall not associated with the unworthy ”. I better be with the people I know. I don't know your people. Let me put it that way.

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#13883
Re:Hi! Thunderbolt 1 Month, 1 Week ago Karma: 3
SK,

I have to come back because I forgot something. Its about Tin Oo, one of the incompetents Ne Win Was surrounded by. Tin Oo had his chances, and opportunities. to do something for the people and the nation together with Ne Win and others , but he could not do it. He did something else, , he listened to his wife too much. He was a hen packed husband .

You blamed Ne Win. We can blame Aung San and others as well if we want to. No body was perfect. We can find fault in every Myanmar leaders.

Even Gautama is not blameless, only thing is we don’t talk about him. We are being discourage to talk bad things about Buddha , his teachings and his followers the Monks. Fear of ‘ Nga Ye ’ ( Hell ).

This Fear is every where , we all are living in fear in one way or the other, think about it. Shame and Fear is also in the teachings. They come together.

To say wrong things , to do wrong things, you have to Fear and Shame
Fear is a good thing, Fear can help you some times, if not all the times.

Now again with Mrs Aris . What did he do, what could he do ? Nothing , his incompetence is blown. Again he cannot step over Mrs Aris.

From the very beginning Mrs Aris had been warned , or advised, what sort of people are around her. But she could not listened . She could do nothing, she was caught in the middle.

For staying away from Myanmar so long, she hardly know anybody in Myanmar. She had a long short . She made a wrong decision , she has to pay for it.
As I said, if she could not listen to anybody, at least she should listen to Gautama Buddha, who said, “ thou shall not associate with the unworthy ”. She may had another position. But she picked the wrong people .

The very first warning and advice of Gautama ,“Ah They Wunna Sa Balanam - Pannita Ninsa Thay Wunnam - Pujasa Puza Nayyamnam - Aye Tam - Mingala Motetamun.’ She is paying for it.

One could say “Nha Myaw De” in Myanmar is a best and right words, in positive sense. Such an educated person, intelligent person, academic . What a pity , what a waste for the people of Myanmar and the nation. She became incompetent herself because she was surrounded by incompetent people .

On the other hand one could say, “ thank Buddha and others Gods, they are goners ”,

‘People, and the nation ’ must always come first. The politic must be for the people , it must be for the nation. It should not be a party politic, individual politic, personnel politic.

“Nobody is indispensable, from Aung San to Than Shwe. Tin Oo and Mrs Aris included.

Myanmars as people, Myanmar as a nation . Myanmar as leaders of the people and the nation have to go on, carry on, go forward , living and learning till we reach our goal.
Without them. Opne day we will reach our goal.

Petty things, and personnel grudges, and animosity, vendetta, and vengeance, must not have rooms. If we love our people, if we love our nation.

Yesterday is gone, tomorrow is another new day, we have to start afresh. I hope this is the last time I will be talking about them.

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Re:Hi! Thunderbolt 1 Month ago Karma: 6
U Gyo,
you said : -

I have to come back because I forgot something. Its about Tin Oo, one of the incompetents Ne Win Was surrounded by. Tin Oo had his chances, and opportunities. to do something for the people and the nation together with Ne Win and others , but he could not do it. He did something else, , he listened to his wife too much. He was a hen packed husband .

<<I don't see anything wrong with Tin U. What do you know more about him apart from the late BSPP newscast?>>

You blamed Ne Win. We can blame Aung San and others as well if we want to. No body was perfect. We can find fault in every Myanmar leaders.

<< I was talking about Ne Win's " accountability ". Not every Myanmar leaders brought down the country into the gully Gyo.>>

Even Gautama is not blameless, only thing is we don’t talk about him. We are being discourage to talk bad things about Buddha , his teachings and his followers the Monks. Fear of ‘ Nga Ye ’ ( Hell ).

<<Gautama has nothing to do with Ne Win, nothing in common. >>

This Fear is every where, we all are living in fear in one way or the other, think about it. Shame and Fear is also in the teachings. They come together.
<<Fear and Concern is different.>

To say wrong things , to do wrong things, you have to Fear and Shame
Fear is a good thing, Fear can help you some times, if not all the times.
<<That is called "Concern" >>

Now again with Mrs Aris . What did he do, what could he do ? Nothing , his incompetence is blown. Again he cannot step over Mrs Aris.
<<Tin U will never step over her. Look Gyo, you like it or not we must agree now that Mrs. Aris is Myanmar National leader, Tin Oo's leader, a leader of you and me. SLORC and SPDC made her to become.>>

From the very beginning Mrs Aris had been warned , or advised, what sort of people are around her. But she could not listened . She could do nothing, she was caught in the middle.

<<Mrs. Aris gave equal chance to everybody who wanted to rebuild the country to join her. Some proved themselves qualified, some don't.>>

For staying away from Myanmar so long, she hardly know anybody in Myanmar. She had a long short . She made a wrong decision , she has to pay for it.
As I said, if she could not listen to anybody, at least she should listen to Gautama Buddha, who said, “ thou shall not associate with the unworthy ”. She may had another position. But she picked the wrong people .

<<Umm . .Interesting! She didn't pick people to associate, people choose her. Which people you want her to associate. Which are the right persons? You??? Ho ho ! >>

The very first warning and advice of Gautama ,“Ah They Wunna Sa Balanam - Pannita Ninsa Thay Wunnam - Pujasa Puza Nayyamnam - Aye Tam - Mingala Motetamun.’ She is paying for it.

<<Mrs. Aris is not associated with anybody, she's not taking sides with anybody, everybody can join her, you can join her, Ne Win can join, Saw Mg could have join, Than Shwe and the Tatmadaw is welcome. She needs every Myanmar, needs all of us to built the country. Myanmar people join Mrs. Aris, they choose Mrs. Aris.>>

One could say “Nha Myaw De” in Myanmar is a best and right words, in positive sense. Such an educated person, intelligent person, academic . What a pity , what a waste for the people of Myanmar and the nation. She became incompetent herself because she was surrounded by incompetent people .
<<Mrs. Aris is surrounded not only by her party and followers, surrounded by the whole Myanmar people and the whole world, You can see clearly if you are not obsessed or blind. >>

On the other hand one could say, “ thank Buddha and others Gods, they are goners ”,
‘People, and the nation ’ must always come first. The politic must be for the people , it must be for the nation. It should not be a party politic, individual politic, personnel politic.

<< That's why Mrs. Aris gave up her freedom, her political party, a chance to contest in 2010 election. She simply refused to recognize the sham 2008 constitutions which is to prolong the dictatorship and not her people's wish. That confirmed her goal is not the power and she was much-admired for that by the world and it's leaders.>>

“Nobody is indispensable, from Aung San to Than Shwe. Tin Oo and Mrs Aris included.
<< Right, if you quote that far I will include dispensable Tatmadaw too. Agree? >>

Myanmars as people, Myanmar as a nation . Myanmar as leaders of the people and the nation have to go on, carry on, go forward , living and learning till we reach our goal.
Without them. Opne day we will reach our goal. Petty things, and personnel grudges, and animosity, vendetta, and vengeance, must not have rooms. If we love our people, if we love our nation.
Yesterday is gone, tomorrow is another new day, we have to start afresh. I hope this is the last time I will be talking about them.

<<V.Good sir, Now you get the point. Not for Mrs. Aris, not for SG Than Shwe, not for Ne Win, not for Tatmadaw. Only for the country and the people. Welcome to join hands with NLD and the people.>>

I know what your problem is.
So don’t bother replying me unless you want to change your narrow mind.
Rgds,

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