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Mynmyat (User)
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Re:Forming Federal Government 7 Months, 2 Weeks ago
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[color=#800080]Comrades,
We, the OPPOSITION against local fascists are gaining. We give Than Shwe and his CLIQUE ample time for them to release all political prisoners including Aung San Suu Kyi till February 12 UNION day and if not we all know what we have to do. Our commitment towards freedom and justice is in the history of Burma for generations after generations. We will not allow fascists foreign or domestic to rule. We will fight to the end.
Get This……………….The first indication of Than Shwe’s CLIQUE (SPDC) retreat since 1990. Yes, the first retreat has happened. “AhYoanThit” in English “Dawn” according to the published statement in Irrawaddy website (I want to correct it for the definition of “AhYoanThit” should be “New Dawn or New Insight”? and the definition of “AhYoanOo” is “Dawn“) bi-monthly newspaper published by the opposition forces INSIDE Burma. http://www.irrawaddy.org/article.php?art_id=9867 I think the opposition NLD should create a website of its own for International media and information purpose.
Officers defection to avoid evil ways. http://www.mizzima.com/MizzimaNews/News/2008/Jan/11-Jan-2008.html
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Re:Forming Federal Government 7 Months, 2 Weeks ago
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Mynmyat, MokeHimKha and readers,
I admire the interest in the subject of forming a new government
because that is what will be right for burma-myanmar. Everyone
knows that except for some members of SPDC.
It is clear to me there are many points of view and strong
feelings.
It is also true that a single vision will be more useful than
many competing ideas because they could conflict with each other.
My suggestion is to create an online system, a government system
where all the points of view and feelings can be soberly discussed
voted and merged into one true vision that will eventually assume
government of burma-myanmar. My wish is that the process will
be accomplished peacefully and I am looking to the Monks for
the right ideas because I believe they have the peaceful ideas
that can work.
nayting
http://www.speakfreeburma.com
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Re:Forming Federal Government 7 Months, 2 Weeks ago
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Nayting,
Of course if it is done in a peaceful way that is the best. Daw Suu is pursuing in a peaceful way for many years with no fruits. In reality spdc’s conduct is never in a peaceful way. How many times did the militancy fascists had murdered the people of Burma since 1962? How many times not to mention the internally displaced people of Burma (ethnics)? The local fascist ruled Burma in one way and that is through violence. These fascists never solved problem through peaceful means. Burma has lost her independence to her own local fascists. Burma has become a slave nation. Some work overseas as slaves to their bosses of Singaporeans or Chinks or Japanese etc and some work at home for the local fascists. The downgrading of Burma is at the lowest level. Lower than Thailand or even Bangladesh. Now there is nothing to be proud of Burma.
It is about time to change the illegal and vicious Government of Burma. MokeJoke mention “facto or wacko government” and I proposed a “Federal Government“. So far I had seen the creation of a UNIFIED Front/Movement (12 branches) called SCMM (Steering Committee of Mass Movement) and they give an ultimatum to spdc to release ALL political prisoners including Daw Suu by February 12 Union day. I do not expect spdc will do it for it is recorded in history the mental retarded spdc never see the goodwill and goodness for the people and the nation and that is why the nation is in chaos. MokeJoke blame the chaos to the opposition (victims) and don’t mention a word to blame the perpetrators or doers, the spdc. Not a word.
Burma’s problem will never be solved WITHOUT the participation of the ethnic people for 60% of Burma’s land belongs to the ethnics. A Federal Government consisting of Tripartite Factors namely the military, opposition and the ethnics. In this process, spdc is the stumbling block and it is Than Shwe’s clique that is the obstacle to peace and prosperity. I see it this way and the others see it the other way. SPDC ’s mentality thinks they can stand the severe pressure of sanctions by living out with Burma’s natural resources and that is why they stubbornly dig into trenches (military mentality) and stay put and in the mean time the people of Burma suffers and the nation goes down. They don’t care nor they have any emotional feelings. All these local fascists sees is their well being and staying in power. That’s all. For them nothing else matters except their power and wealth. They will even sell Burma to China and Burma become a satellite province of China if they had to. This kind of mentality these thugs have, so it is dangerous for the people and the nation in the hands of these high treasonable thugs.
If people want Burma to prosper, the Government needs to be CHANGE and CHANGE for better and not for worse. Ne Win is bad, Saw Maung is worse and Than Shwe is the worst of these 3 dictators. Burma will be poor under these rulers. No doubt about it. All I want to say is, if people and the nation want to be SLAVE then stick with local fascists disguise in any shape or form and if PEOPLE want to be MASTERS of their own land change the government that murders them and build a government that looks and protect the interest, prosperity of the people of Burma. They have choice. The choice is theirs. Please don’t cry if they stick to local fascists and poverty ruins Burma. OK?
I had posted many links to Monks videos in this topic. Look at back pages and you will find.
Regards,
Mynmyat.
Note: Not only build a Federal Government but also draft the Federal Democratic Law (constitution) that supercedes all states' laws.
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Re:Forming Federal Government 7 Months, 2 Weeks ago
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Mynmyat,
Yes I agree.
Right now we are three interested bloggers and
50 or 100 interested readers.
If this were a town in the mid west a century ago we would
meet at the town hall and decide what to do.
I also believe strongly that there are good men and women
in the Burma Army who share our views but have to keep
silent because of the military discipline
So I suggest we meet online and make the first steps
towards a common vision. Sober and together, it's not so
important what we agree to do but that collectively we
have a way to agree.
A system that grows is what will accomplish something
useful eventually. Now 100 tomorrow 120 and so on.
We can be gentlemen and gentlewomen and civil and
represent a common purpose.
Because most people except for a some SPDC want
a new way.
nayting
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Re:Forming Federal Government 7 Months, 2 Weeks ago
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Hi all,
I am a burmese but no longer citizen living in Germany for more than 20 years, but paid annual visits since when I left this country. I am interested in Burma/Myanmar problem. But I have different point of views.
Can I make some critics towards Burma/Myanmar opposition in this forum?
Because I saw here a lot of refugees politicians from Bu/MM and i had a look at them.
Ohnmar
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Hi Ohnmar,
Sure, speak out for no one is perfect including the OPPOSITION. Let's hear your point of view. I acknowledge and respect your view and your thoughts/contribution in building a MEANINGFUL UNION that last. Please do criticize. OK?
regards,
Mynmyat.
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[color=#825900]Open message to Nilar Thein, her husband Jimmy and like minded brave freedom fighters of Burma. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7177658.stm
Nilar, Jimmy and all comrades,
Although you your husband and many others are taking the pain of ruthless repression and oppression from militancy fascists I want you all to know the world is watching and acknowledge your bravery and suffering. I know life under cruel repression is unbearable and yet you as a female and newly mother, sacrifice your life in just cause of freedom and justice. I know just like Daw Suu and Min Ko Naing, there are many brave men and women of Burma who are willing to suffer the heavy repression of local fascists led by monks killer Than Shwe and his clique. I just want you all to know that truth and justice stands beside you and the most powerful democratic nation on earth stands with the oppressed people of Burma. China may side with the ruling junta for their interests but United States all along is against the junta and against injustices and stand with the oppressed people of Burma. The world knows about you Nilar and about your family although you are in hiding places and may not know. Your courageous work is acknowledge by all of us who loves freedom. From this forum I honor and regard you as one of our heroes of our time. Hold on tight and be alert Nilar. Millions of PARADOXANS can relay this message I had written in this forum to you where ever you may be. Although I do not know you personally I admire your courage and intelligent moves that you had make. I believe strongly your shining days will come and Burma will be free again from the local fascists. The struggle is on going and the fight is getting intense. Be careful Nilar for you are one of the rare species Burma ever got! We cannot afford to lose people like you. Thank you Nilar and your family’s sacrifices. Thank you.
May the FORCE visible and invisible be with you, your family, your comrades and all freedom fighters.
With full respect and honor,
Mynmyat a Paradoxan from another region.[/color]<br><br>Post edited by: Mynmyat, at: 2008/01/09 06:17
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I want to comment to this link from Irrawaddy website. http://www.irrawaddy.org/article.php?art_id=9893
I prefer John McCain out of the three potential US Presidential Candidates. Why? Because he is HAWKISH and well seasoned, experienced leader. He can be a good President (or) Vice President for US and beyond.
In this volatile world we need a strong, experience HAWKISH U.S. President indeed. I strongly believe Presidential hopeful John McCain is best suitable for US, Burma and the world and will be the right person at the right time/era not to mention he had sacrificed much for United States of America during his entire life.
I pick John McCain out of the three.
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Nayting,
I accept your notion that there are military personals that want change. If you look at the links I posted, you will find soldiers are being treated as servants for their commanding officers. This is abuse of military institution. The top brass abuse anything they can put their power on including rapes. I sincerely do not think the military under womanizer, psychopath and monks killer is disciplined. I called it fear. Fear of losing their ranks and put into jail. Even Generals are put into jail because they refused to kill innocent monks. The leaders are the perpetrators and they should be prosecuted by International Criminal Court. I would like to suggest to find high ranking officers to infiltrate into the inner circle of Than Shwe’s clique. Remember Ne Win was house arrested by his own high ranking officers/follows and died in detention. The same technique should be used. The very followers' betrayal is the key to remove the unwanted top criminals. Among themselves each of them watched their back for this is the way of Burmese military under these 3 thugs.
I know there are some officers that can do the job if they are brave enough. Any way Than Shwe days are gone for he is ailing and unhealthy.
Again my advice to the opposition is to infiltrate into Than Shwe’s clique http://www.mizzima.com/Foto-2008/Jan/than-shewbig.html for that will be the ultimate change for Burma and Burmese military for the division between the clique and the rest is mounting deeper and we need like minded military officers to join in the revolution.
I will re-read your last post to me and steady carefully and will response for now I have to go for some important matter and will be off line for a day or 2.
regards,
Mynmyat
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Nayting,
Here’s the response to your last post to me. Yes I agree we meet here AO forum and exchange views how to change AND free Burma from the evil iron grip of domestic fascists. Yes, I agree to disagree and I will try my utmost to be civil and gentle. When I go gentle these hooligans cut me down as gay or ahyu/maniac or something. They are the ones that makes me very angry. They are the ones who are so rude and insulted me many times on the net. They are the ones who discriminates and ignorant and arrogant or act like I never exist just like they treat to Aung San Suu Kyi and never treat me nice not to mention their disgusted mentality. Most of them are the same. Concerning with the mental status, Burma is the same. I’ve been used to that for decades. They are the ones oh I can go on and on. Remember I lived among them for many years and I know their attitudes, behavior and their conduct. Never mind that let’s go back to the topic of creating a FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. Do you seriously think monks killers can create a democratic Burma? Do you? As for me I don’t think so. Of course they can create “deceptive democracy” with cosmetic ways and forms. Murderers are murderers. It is in their blood. You think monks have the way. A peaceful way huh? Well in reality they are after monks and monks are vanishing and running away from Burma. What do you say to that?. My opinion is to cure a snake’s bite, a snake’s venom had to be used. To defend smallpox disease, a shot of smallpox bacteria (smallpox vaccine) had to be injected into the human’s body so as the flu. That is my understanding and so the same goes with the militancy fascists. To get rid of militancy fascists, militant “good and smart/wise/intelligent” officers are needed to go against them. Military must be confronted by militants (foreign or domestic) NOT monks or students or others to be effective. That’s my concept. Burma needs true patriotic officers that does not look for their own wellness but for the wellness of the people and the country. People like Bogyoke Aung San for example. Bogyoke Aung San never feel the taste of wealth and yet he led the Burma Army and give his life for the nation. Those kind of Bogyokes I am talking about. Burma needs many Bogyokes like Aung San. These thugs know and they cut down Bogyoke Aung San and even take his picture out of Burmese money, don’t they?
My concept is the entire military institution of Burma needs to be reform and led by true patriots and no humbug bull crap Generals. They are sleazy and sly and be careful for their can make “green” into “red” and “red” into “green”. Deception is their tool
I bet the entire population that is born after 1962 at least will have a relative in the military. They had made Burma is OWNED by the military and the people are all military related zombies including those who reside in foreign countries (no more citizens). So it is kind of hard to change for the better. Burma is in a long ride to nowhere for many years even when there is democratic government installed or elected.
So I do wish “good luck” in this hard and tedious struggle for true Independence from "domestic fascists/home grown fascists" that rule Burma for so long. It looks to me home grown fascists are more wicked than foreign fascists.
Regards,
Mynmyat.
nayting wrote:
QUOTE: Mynmyat,
Yes I agree.
Right now we are three interested bloggers and
50 or 100 interested readers.
If this were a town in the mid west a century ago we would
meet at the town hall and decide what to do.
I also believe strongly that there are good men and women
in the Burma Army who share our views but have to keep
silent because of the military discipline
So I suggest we meet online and make the first steps
towards a common vision. Sober and together, it's not so
important what we agree to do but that collectively we
have a way to agree.
A system that grows is what will accomplish something
useful eventually. Now 100 tomorrow 120 and so on.
We can be gentlemen and gentlewomen and civil and
represent a common purpose.
Because most people except for a some SPDC want
a new way.
nayting
http://www.speakfreeburma.com
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