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Re:You talked ground reality! You did it again! 5 Months, 3 Weeks ago Karma: -4  
Dear Polaris,

You want to talked about deadlock, you meant to find a way to move forward. I agree that two wrong do not make one right. Brig, Gen Kyaw Hsan’s meeting with Mr Gambari explained everything. Whether we accept it or not is another matter. Some people think it was reasonable to accept , his explanation or the New Constitution. If Ma Su Kyi does not see it as, at least reasonable, the dead lock will be there we can not go forward.

To further my discussion, I would like to bring back Ma Su Kyi’s vow at her mother’s funeral on the 2nd January 1989 . Whether it was her political catch phrase or political catch words you decide. Words and actions should go together. Read the small prints. read the lines between . You can analyse any way you want . You can also argue that Ma Su Kyi at the moment has no political power how can she put her words into action.

“ I vowed to stay in my motherland and work unceasingly with all nationalities. In accordance with the guideline laid down by my father; to maintain the sovereignty of our country to bring developments to all nationalities and to establish democracy.”
Who wrote that vow for her I have no idea. All politicians have their speech writers picking right words to attract the people, to say what the people ant to hear. According to democracy, that is important. But, I ‘m afraid it is not my cup of tea Polaris.

I am a Myanmar born and brought up in Myanmar. I take the interest in Myanmar wherever I am living, because Myanmar is my country, Myanmars are my people. I know about my country and I know about my people. I have my dreams for Myanmars. I am not going to shout like Martin Luther King JR. had shouted “ I had my dreams”

Why we cannot go for ward is simply because of mistrust. Mistrust is everywhere Polaris, nobody trust nobody. Nobody has any confidence we lost our confidence in our self , we lost our self respect. We Myanmars are blinded with ideas ,from left right and centre. We are bombarded with foreign isms. We do not know what is what , we do not know where to go or we don’t know where we are going. If I’d say we Myanmars are the lost tribe, it would be too much. I think Ma Su Kyi herself is lost without her good advisors around. May be that was the idea of SPDC. Never mind about that. The fact is Ma Su Kyi is not blind, she is not deaf she is not dumb. That is a good thing.

May I ask you , what do you see the difference between that vow and what SPDC is doing? Or what are they in common? If you say there is no difference or they all are in common. Then why can’t they work together is the next question. Then why can’t one be happy when other is doing as she wanted. It may not be the way she wanted but the goal is the same.

Let’s pick and pack , like most people in the forum do. Let’s look at it from the negative side , or the opposite side. NLD as opposition never see anything positive of what SPDC is doing. So I am going to look at it fron the negative side of what NLD is doing. Is that fair enough?

In her first line, first part she said to stay in motherland , when did she realised to stay in mother land? Where was she staying before that date? Where was she born? Who were her parents?

First line second part to work unceasingly with all nationalities. The past leaders of Myanmar, U Nu, U Ne Win . SLORC and today SPDC working with all the nationalities in Myanmar in many ways in every ways . Is it true or not?. Even the blind man see it . Why can’t she see it. Why does she think she is so special?

Second line, first part “ In accordance with the guideline laid down by my father;” what was the guide line Ko Aung San had laid down? With due respect to Ko Aung San, looking at him from the positive side 1947 constitution which he drafted said it all.

Second line , second part , which was “ to maintain the sovereignty of our country.”
Do you honestly think that 1947 constitution is the assurance, a guarantee for Union of Burma (Myanmar ) to be a sovereign nation. A few months after the independence , because of that constitution . The sovereignty of Union of Burma (Myanmar) was about to lose. If only Myanma Tatmadaw and it leader had no sense sovereignty of Union of Burma (Myanmar ) would be a thing of the past.
Last not the least, “ to bring developments to all nationalities and to establish democracy.”

Third line first part, “ to bring developments”. It was true there were not enough developments in Myanmar. Doesn’t she know it was because of the insurgencies born out of that l947 constitution which her father was partly responsible? Doesn’t she know revenues and resources, time , money were wasted instead of spending them to develop the whole nation , these monies had to spent to equip Tatmadaw to defend the nation from enemies foreign and domestic. You can not fight with your bare hands because they were not fighting with their bare hands either. They had their suppliers . When we talk about insurgencies we must not forget about the Communist and White Chinese either.

Today, border areas, where most of the ethnic nationalities are developed , literally speaking Bamars and others who are in land, in the towns and cities are starving.
What does Ma Su Kyi think the leaders of Myanmar in the past or at present are doing?

Third line second part. which was to establish democracy. In my view, democracy comes in different forma What kind of democracy she wants to establish in Myanmar , I am not sure , she did not elaborate either but everybody assumed it is western style democracy.

You know very well Myanmar was a democratic country , in fact it was totally western style multi party democracy. We have seen it with our very own eyes it did not work due to many reasons, mainly because of 1947 constitution which encouraged uisurgencies.
While talking about insurgencies we cannot for get the Communists either. It could also be said because of Myanmars ways of life, including culture, tradition, custom blah, blah, blah. Most Myanmars are Buddhist and Buddhism is interpreted by some people as socialism or communism. sharing, caring this and that. Let us not bring fathers of socilism such as Socrates or Aristotle, Marx or Engel (spelling)

Now, let’s talk again about Ko Aung San’s guideline. Deny it if she wants. His guideline for Myanmar’s economy was SOCIALIS STATE. All other leaders after him declared it clearly to the world . Does Ma Su Kyi know that, when she was referring to her father’s guideline. Is she going to make Myanmar a Socialist country, will she clearing declare that she is to establish. Does she mean to break Union of Myanmar into small little countries like Russian Federation or Commonwealth of Independent States? According to 1847 constitution and do we have to assumed that was her father’s guideline as well? If that will be the case, what the hell was she talking about her father guideline and SOVEREIGNTY?

As I have said above these are the picks and packs depending on how we want to understand her.

Today whatever SPDC is doing whether it was her father‘s guide line or even it is her own guideline SPDC is going the right w ay going to the right direction. Why can‘t she look at it from positive side and be happy about it. She has not one finger to lift and her will are being done.

New Constitution is going to be the assurance, going to be the guarantee. In black and white and it is in ritten language.

Nice talking to you,

Thunderbolts.
 
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