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Re:The Unfinished Painting 6 Months, 1 Week ago Karma: -4  
Dear MHK,

The more they discuss the more they will find out the essence of it. That is a good sign MHJK, very good as long as they don’t ignore it. I don’t want Myanmars to be ignorant. Before they say “Yes “ or “No” , they have to understand it thoroughly about this constitution.

Like Myanmar saying “ Thu Myar Young Lo Young Ya De - Amaung Taung Mhan Myaut Mhan Mathi ” that is no good at all. We need to be mature ,. Adults.

Different of opinion will always be there, different of ideas will always be there. Opposite views will always there, we must accept it . Why ? Because it is nature. It is healthy in politic, it is for the better, we can improve ourselves. There are rooms to discuss there are rooms to debate. In proper manner, which means “ in discipline “ that is what the democracy is all about isn’t it?

1. “ perpetuation of military state in Myanmar” It seems like that isn’t it? But “No “ it is perpetuation of freedom. Independence and sovereignty of the Union of Myanmar. But that concern of military state is not justify. If they digest the constitution their concern will disappear. As I understand it this Commander in Chief won’t do anything in a rush or in a hurry without consulting other Hluttaw members in the parliament., and the President. There may be Pyidoungzu Hluttaw emergency meeting . That meeting will authorised if necessary. Tatmadaw is also learning from its mistakes. Even if there was a military coupe necessary it won’t be 40 years, that is the bottom line.

Believe it or not in 1962, U Nu already said he could not refused Kayin and Kayah to get out of the Union,. And some other states would follow suit. If only that materialised , where was Union of Myanmar going to be. Conse quences were so great people did not know, what people knew was “ Gen Ne Win took over power “
That was what the opposition of that time told Myanmars.

But in 1974 people had more understand of socialist constitution. People had other ideas, and BSPP lasted for twenty six years. Well these are all in the past.

Well , if there was situation for a military coupe , it could happened again , who knows. We have seen in many democratic countries. You know that. For example a few months ago in Turkey , the armed forces had seek the permission of the Turkish Parliament to go into Iraq, Kurdish region. Parliament authorised it. .That kind of authorization might be seek by Myanmar C n C first, if situation arises.

It is our duty, everybody duty not to created the situations which could invite military take over .for 6 months or 6 years doesn’t matter, we must not create , not fall into anybody’s trap. Especially the politicians who will use us.

We must make the democracy takes roots in Myanmar , that is our duty, that we must do without fail .

2. I would say that is the talk of armed insurgent groups who are still outside legal fold. They have been invited , many of their splinter groups were in the National Convention. Laying down basic principals and detailed principles. The said National Convention consisted many ethnic groups who are law abiding citizens of Myanmar. Many from all walks of life, Which is much mote than “ Tripartite ”. Who should I call it I don’t know.

Having said that, those armed insurgent group know exactly what to do . To be in the democratic society. But they did not want to do it. They missed the big change , the big opportunity. Whose false is that?

3. This Constitution is for the country called Pyidoungzu Thamada Myanmar Naing Ga Daw. It is not for any other nations, it is not for international community.
I won’t say as far as , it is not their business but actually it is not theirs.

What if I’d say to US to do this to do that, to change this and that in United States constitution? I know whatn they will do they will f - -k me. If the international wants to see, Myanmar in peace , tranquillity, , the progress and prosperous develop nation. If they really care about the people of Myanmar. The best is they should endorsed it. But that really doesn’t matter as long as the people of Myanmars approve it.

What does matter is the economy policy of Myanmar, and the laws related to economy, because international community might have interest to invest in Myanmar. That is another case.

We may not have things made in US or Europe. , but we will still have made in China and made in Russia. That is good enough for us. Don’t you think.

International Community should understand , this constitution has everything they expect, everything they longed for. The only thing is according to this constitution their little darling sister Ma Su Kyi or Mrs. Aris has no place in Myanmar’s politic That is their main objection to it, If Ma Su Kyi gets a place or if Ma Su Kyi have a right to control put the Tatmadaw under stinking foot the international community will be
alright.

This constitution is for the unity of Myanmar, to build Myanmar into one nation fit for all people to live in as one people. They international community should be glad and should be helping Myanmar.

4. Finally we should not let do whatever military wants because they even killed the monks etc
4. You have seen what happened in other small nation during these years, to compare to Myanmar. What has happen in Myanmar were nothing.

Killing monks or killing people are not desirable, un necessary . It is not right at all MHK, but sometimes when you try to restore peace , law and order it is unavoidable. Especially in 1988 , there were so many people in the blocks who were picked and deliberately killed, and beheaded by the mob, led by the monks.

Especially Monks are being used by the politicians. How many were real monks, how many fakes and bogus. When they are check their ID they ran disappear from the scene as well as from the country. You may have seen the footage on the TV. Did you honestly believe those fklying Tharthanar flagsm shouting slogans with arms high, were respectable Buddhist Monks? How many bogus and fake monks taken refuge in the monasteries you don’t know I don’t know.

In the eyes of the outsiders, yellow robe with bald heads are all Buddhist Monks. Because they could not differentiate them who is who. In Myanmar Buddhist Monks are not Shaolin Monks. As far as international community is concerned, Shaolin or not a Monk is a Monk. That is their view.

“ SPDC , Yote Tayet Ashite Hto Khan Lite Ya De “ because of these bogus and fake monks You see how clever the politician. That is why I don‘t like them very much. To be honest. don‘t like the monks who made themselves available to be used. I am a Buddhist, I believe in Buddha and his teachings of the way of life.

I only hope Buddhist are not copying Muslims terrorists. I hope international community will not look down on Buddhists like they do on Muslims. Because of these bogus and fake monks from Myanmar.

When there are political changes, thing happen . These things do happen in the whole wide world. That is why we need to be careful, very careful.

You don’t know, even to install Democracy in other countries how many Monks , or Priests, or Mullahs or Rabis were killed , who’s counting, anyway ? Killings has become part of the game. I wish it wasn’t like that. I don’t have to elaborate that, do I? You know very well.

MHK I would like to interpret as “ There were causalities, so many people died in the incident , during the riots, during the chaos” etc., etc.

Yes I agree this constitution is a progress or a step forward. This constitution is much. much better than the last two constitutions. Compare to those, this could be called the best that Myanmar has. We have to make it work. When we put into practice, we may find some difficulties then we have to find some alternatives., which may mean amendments, all in democratic way. That’s the way it should be.

We had democracy before, what did we do with it? This time we had to treasure it, value, take care of it. Because we did not get it free. It cost us blood, sweat and tears. The cost was higher and higher everyday.

True some compromises have been made for ethnic groups., why not . Ethnic groups are our brothers living on the same soil, drinking the same water. Because some of our leaders in the past did not make enough compromises with the ethnic groups. Some even accused not only our leader, but Bamar as a domineering race undermining every other races in Myanmar. Which was not true. But today this constitution makes everything clear. National Reconciliation. Confidence, Trust Harmony you name it everything is their towards prosperity.

That may be the case international community does not like it. The international Community which consists of former colonial maters does not like to see their former colonial slave living in peace & harmony in Progress, Prosperous and Developed..
In their mind they are still the colonial Masters and everybody is their slaves. What will Wilberforce of Britain say., what will Abe Lincoln of US say if they were alive today.

If you don’t want to say “possibility or good opportunity for Nation Building” what would you like to say? Nation Building is not one person’s job,. not only for one group either. It is the responsibility of everybody, 54 million people of Myanmar. Everybody has to take their part, especially those who consider themselves as leaders of the nation.

“ Primitive “ . you may call it. Because Myanmars whom most of them are Buddhist are still living with the idea which is over two thousand five hundred years ago. For that I once said that Myanmars are drowning in the philosophies. There is nothing wrong with the idea, but putting these idea into practice, is not right in my view, I said it many time Buddhism is a way of life. Myanmars should make good use of this Buddhism in their daily life, logically, practically. Nirvana is here it is not in the space or beyond.

Sorry, to say, going to Pagodas, Monasteries, worry beats ( Seitbadi )in the hand, saying prayers alone won’t make one’s life easy, it would not make the country great or developed and progress. That is a kind of weakness in my view.

These tactics may only help the Monks. That’s why Monks are encouraging the lay people to do Danna, Thila, and Bawanas. That make the Monks rich, the nation and the people poor.

How to educated the people ? That is the responsible for the Government, parents, teachers . Like it or not call it as you will. But the propaganda is by the opposition. What the BBC, VOA and RFA or DVB are doing is nothing but propaganda.

The people must be informed thoroughly. The people need information about what the government is doing and what is the plan for the future. Through Radio, TV magazines and papers. If possible exhibitions shows etc., etc. must be staged. Talks and workshops.

The government must understand. Myanmars like “ Yaw Badamyar - Yaw Nagar ”. That is why Ma Su Kyi and NLD and US and UK are denying the rights of the people to progress, rights of the nation to developed by calling economic sanctions. They are afraid if SPDC can provide the people with everything, they will lose not only the battle but the war.

They are trying to strip the people of Myanmar everything. During RC and during BSPP, you may remember the demonetization of the bank notes. That is nothing to compare to these economic sanctions. A few days ago United States announced the freezing of the assets of Asia world , a company which is a building contractor in Singapore which was building roads and bridges, schools, hospitals and so on, in Myanmar.

MHK, Myanmars are great people, they are not “ inferior native “ as one Brit had described. Myanmars are bright, talented people with plenty of potentials. That is what international community is afraid of. Myanmar as a nation has plenty of natural resources, these are what the international community is after. Myanmars can go along way. That is why the international community cannot share their technical know-how with the Myanmars. Especailly if Myanmar refused to be control by them.
So they have to brain wash the people of Myanmar through the radios.

I don’t think it will be rejected. Myanmars now knows more about NLD ond Ma Su Kyi more than before. Myanmars knows who is making the country un developed, Myanmars know now who are making their life hell.

To answer your question straight, and give you the example, the people will see this constitution took away the military domination or military leadership in Myanmar’s politic. That is a good sign. If BSPP one party rule was accepted by the people. Approved by the people, there is more chance this constitution will be approved by the people. People are fair, they will give the leaders a chance, the nation a chance and most of all they will give themselves a chance. .

The politicians must teach the people the right things. They must lead them right way, .not mislead them. Not to bribe the people with what they like to hear deliver what they need. ..

Myanmar is a member of the United Nations In this world organization there are also fair people . There is check and balance in the UN.

“ Unity is non-existence”? no I don’t think so. Yoummanybe going too far . If you don’t mind me saying so. Because if we have got a certain Unity. We were gone long ago. We need more Unity. We need those who are still isolating themselves from us to unite with the rest of us. That is what we still need.

We are more united then before. Look at the National Convention. The more the merrier it was. All law abiding citizens were there. No, you cannot expect every one to agree or accept. Democracy does not guarantee every single one will agree or disagree. Whether military made constitution or civilian made constitution, all constitutions are not perfect, that is why there must be rooms for amendments, whenever situation and circumstances permit. .

Yes, the world is changing, have Myanmars changed yet? Myamar must go with the flow. If they are , in what way they are changing? Many times I said. Myanmars are confused, because there is too much outside interference. They are bombarded with propaganda through BBC, VOA, RFA, DVB.

Most Myanmars are naturally simple and quiet people. They are not afraid of anything. They don’t talk very much, they mind their own business. that quietness and minding their own business is interpreted or translated by some Myanmar politicians as FEAR. That alone shows, the opposition leader especially Ma Su Kyi does not understand Myanmrs at all. The opposition is insulting the people. That is a shame.

Compromising is not in Ma Su Kyi’s dictionary. If she is a leader, she should know time to make war and time to make peace. She always wants war. She is digging her own grave. She knows she is a goner long before she started. She has nothing to lose. She came with empty hands but she will not gog with empty hands, as amtter of fact she will go with plenty in her hands. She has sucessfully exploited the people of Myanmar. Being an ENgglish man's wife serves her well, very well.

That is what Ma Su Kyi as a politician is teaching the people, exploitation of man by man, in her case by woman.

“ Military takes over ” can happen in any country whenever necessary, whenever opportunity arises. Thailand is not like Myanmar, politically, economically far better than Myanmar. far peaceful than Myanmar. If it could happened in Thailand, what happened in Myanmar could be understood.

Thanking you for reading my messages, nothing personnel, its is the interest of the nation, in the interest of the people. I learned a lot of things from you as well or being in this forum.

If there is some thing you don’t understand or cannot agree, we can discuss, more. We can at least come to agree to disagree an d stop there and discuss other things , and at the next opportunity we may agree who knows, depends on situation and circumstances, isn’t it? After all we are civilised people. Aren’t we?

Nice talking to you.

Regards,

Thunderbolts.
 
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