SPDC announces referendum in May, polls in 2010 …
They had done their part and nobody could stop it. There is no point or useless talking about this is vague, incomplete and strange or any thing.

Whether it is fair referendum or not, this will be another issue.
What important is Burmese people have to express their real wish without fear in this coming votes.

Now, the situation is people has to decide the future of Burma. Not SPDC or NLD or DASSK or Gambari.

If people fail to show their true wishes, then forget about everything. Burma will never ever comes out from the shit and forever under military boots.

So, people wishes is extremely vital this time.

ANOTHER ISSUE

If this referendum is not fair and SPDC do some dirty things, the future is also up to the people. Just let go or another revolution?

Don't talk about international/US/UK pressure, it will never happen unless there is an interest for them. Sanctions also little affect to the regime. UN can't do much as long as China and Russia are backing SPDC. What ASEAN and India can do is just talking.

SO, ONLY BURMESE PEOPLE CAN DECIDE THE FUTURE OF BURMA.
AND IT IS UP TO THE PEOPLE OF BURMA.

PEOPLE POWER IS MOST IMPORTANT THIS YEAR 2008 AND IF BURMESE ARE NOT UNITED AND DISCIPLINE,

THEN FORGET ABOUT THE FUTURE OF BURMA.

Dear YGA,

The time is right, to reply to you. You were not been ignored. I was busy with UKM and MHK.

YGA. “ Myanmar is in the hands of the people of Myanmar”

T. Generally speaking , they are good advice, good political catch phrases, good political catch words. But not enough, you have to go further, deeper. No double meanings. Every words and phrases need to clarify, in each case. If you study the law, if you have yto draft a law, you can't afford words which will give double meanings.

Let it be known to the world.

Before 1948. Myanmar declares that they intend to nationalised the industries, and to build Myanmar as a socialist Nation. In Ko Aung San speech, he used the phrase,
“ Socialism Khor, Lu Amyar Koung Zar Yey Wahda ” U Nu drove Myanmar to socialism through Phyi Daw Thar Siman Gain , U Ne Win drove Myanmar to socialism through BSPP. making sure Myanmar is in the hands of Myanmar through nationalisation and law “ Socialist Si Pwar Kar Kwe Yey U Baday.”

I have heard over two thousand five hundred years ago some those who were trading between Myanmar and others in in Mitzima Region were two brothers named Thaphttha an Balika , they were going around with 500 bullock carts. But there was no records of Myanmar economic progress and developments.

Myanmars were and are known to be agriculturalists , peasants and farmers Whether they knew about large scale trading or they were expert on trading , we have no liable records of them either.

When we were born we know Tayotes and Kalars and Kabyars were running the Business and they were the traders. There was a name mentioned he was a Mon namely U Na Aut. he went bankrupt in the end.

Myanmar cannot run Myanmar’s economy,. Myanmar cannot run their business, Myanmar cannot trade. Profiteering is against their beliefs.

I was saying since 1948, Myanmar was in the hands of the people of Myanmar. Sure that is all it was. In their hands. nothing more. They c an do what they like. In the first years of independence, aids , grants and loans and donations from here and there plus Japanese war reparations .

Myanmar is like a car engine , when the fuel in the tank gone the car stopped, could not go anywhere. The political alignment with socialist blocks did not help. We cannot put the blame on the socialism or socialist economy. This system works in other nation. even today. It is obvious that Myanmars cannot run their economy. So others don’t want to do business with Myanmars, especially those who feel they cannot exploit Myanmar anymore. The economy in the hands of Myanmars rapidly deteriorating

People don’t like it when I said it, why? Who are the people running a limited Myanmar business in Myanmar? How many of them are Myanmar origin how many of them are Myanmar citizens.

What important is Burmese people have to express their real wish without fear in this coming votes.

People of Myanmar fear nothing. They are not afraid of anything. Because they are like blind people. “ Myet Kan Tasey Makyaut ” They don’t know what the fear is. They fought the British, they fought the Japanese. The whole of their history is filled with wars, they were fighting . If they had no one to fight, they will fight among themselves. That is why Myanmar is in trouble again and again. They have limited “ Karya Swan Ahar “ but no “ Nyar Na Swan Ahar ”. They are lack of thinking power, their brain are weak in that sense. When they are to fight with their brain, they don’t know how to fight. They know they have to be united, but they don’t know how to unite. And somebody says they are in fear. No that can not be right.

YGA.Now, the situation is people has to decide the future of Burma. Not SPDC or NLD or DASSK or Gambari.

T. True, the future of Myanmar , the future of 52 million inhabitants of Myanmar living in the 261,228 square miles Not as Shan, as Chin, as Kachin, as Kayin, as Kayah , as Mon, as Yakhine and as Bamar individually, not as a group from eight main groups as one individual claiming their own little territory as “ Dar Do Pyey - Da Do May - Do Paing De Myey ”. This area belongs to every single one of them. They live together or they die together. In the old national anthem that means 261, 228 square miles of Do Pyay, Do Myey .

YGA.If people fail to show their true wishes, then forget about everything. Burma will never ever comes out from the shit and forever under military boots. So, people wishes is extremely vital this time.

T. Thatis also true. When people have a right to show their wishes, and a chance to show 52 million people may have 52 million wishes. They have to recognise and acknowledge that they are not alone as individual race. They are together as one national race as Myanmars as one people in one nation as Myanmar Naing Gan Daw for all people in it.

What you like may not be what I like. What I like may not be what you don’t like. The like and dislike, the want and the don’t want can wait, at the moment what all people NEED is important. What is not good for me may not be good for you. People must know the WANT and the NEED , the NEED of 52 million people of Myanmar must be a priority.

What Myanmar needs now and Myanmar in the future needs is peace, stability, economic developments, political developments and social developments to the stage we all are living comfortable life.

They have to grow, grow and grow, up, up and up. not down, down and down .

To built Myanmar a modern developed nation, no one person can do it, no one group can do it. We all must do it together, each and individual of us have to do our part, share the burden, share the glory.

ANOTHER ISSUE

YGA. If this referendum is not fair and SPDC do some dirty things, the future is also up to the people. Just let go or another revolution?

T. What dirty? You and your threat is dirty enough. Don’t worry about SPDC, worry for others and worry for yourself . What do you know about this new constitution. Do you really know the meaning of it. Are you clear, digested? Are you a pessimist or optimist You just do your part clean, that is all it needed. .

Let me enlighten you on this, just one point . SPDC is not a political party. It is Tatmadaw. If you are thinking of USDA as a political party on its own or to support NUP the former BSPP, nobody will say you are wrong.

But the bottom line is whoever wins or lose in the coming election SPDC doesn’t care. Do you know why? Do you want to know why? As I know it because there will be 25 % of the Tatmadaw representatives in all the Hluttaws, from the bottom to the top. Nobody had to elect them, defence services will selected them . Like it or not.

YGA. Don't talk about international/US/UK pressure, it will never happen unless there is an interest for them. Sanctions also little affect to the regime. UN can't do much as long as China and Russia are backing SPDC. What ASEAN and India can do is just talking.

T. If there is no interest for then in Myanmar British would not try and take it since 1824 and they had to leave in 1948, but not willing . The reason they left so quick was they had to rebuild their country, they had to rebuild Europe which was the spoil of the war or their share. That why they went easy They knew Myanmar won’t go any where.
British lost nothing they left Japan to take responsibility which was called, “ Japanese Reparation ” for Myanmar “ Sit Yaw Jay “. British only agreed to cancel £15 million debt. What was £ 15 million after they have made incalculable fortune . But not to mentioned the problems they left Myanmar with.

What about US? Among many things they tried to buy the late U Khun Za, and his Homong to have their missile site, When the deal broke off, they issue warrant for the arrest and reward of $2 million was offered for the capture of U Khun Za, Not to forget about their covert operations in many other parts of the world in many other small nations.

What is going on with US and Russia you can see clearly, don't you?

Why do you think the west is supporting Ma Su Kyi for? Democracy and human rights? Why do you think they are putting pressures on SPDC? Democracy and human rights? That may be too easy and simple to understand.

These supports alone is dividing Myanmars. These supports alone is breaking Myanmar into pieces, in tne past and at present. Things are not what they seem YGA, you must understand. Don’t take my words, find out by yourself. I will only say if they have no interest in Myanmar, leave Myanmar alone. If they don’t want to help, don’t disturb Myanmar. Is that not simple enough?

Let me ask you a question, Why are they helping Laos, Cambodia, Vietnam, the communist regimes? Or even China? DO you think it is to weaken the communists?
That is too simple. By the way Myanmar is not a communist country. Myanmar is no puppet to no one. At least SPDC is nobody’s puppet. U Ne Win was nobody’s puppet, U Nu was nobody’s puppet either.

YGA. SO, ONLY BURMESE PEOPLE CAN DECIDE THE FUTURE OF BURMA. AND IT IS UP TO THE PEOPLE OF BURMA.

T. True, to be able to do that . Myanmars must have clear visions. clear hearing most of all , they must not be handicapped people. They need to be healthy physically and mentally. skill, trades professions to build their nation their own nation which is their own house. No its not up to the people, the people must be guided if needs be. We can't leave it to them like that.saying they can do what they like, until such time.

YGA. PEOPLE POWER IS MOST IMPORTANT THIS YEAR 2008 AND IF BURMESE ARE NOT UNITED AND DISCIPLINE, THEN FORGET ABOUT THE FUTURE OF BURMA.

T. True, that is why the people must not be used, the peoples‘ power must not be abused. People must not let anybody, anybody use then and abuse them, never allow them. Unity and discipline are needed even in your own home. A nation is bigger than our own home it is a bigger home for us. With many families unity and disciplines are more needed.


My best regards,

Thunderbolts.

thunderboats,

Stop the BS and keep the crap to yourself. For 46 years and counting the state power was, is never in the hands of the people not to mention thousands and thousands of them were gun down or imprison by the military. Saying or writing one thing and doing another is pure deception. Only idiots will buy your lousy long many posts, some (people like me) don't even bother to read. Smart and intelligent people will not buy your propaganda stuff. Your boss spdc is declaring this and that for they are heavily pressured and been cornered. Now they put a timeline at least for they know they days are numbered. 2010 they say, another trick to prolong or extend their rule for another 2 years. Of course they can plan or dream all they want but time and tide waits for no one.


thunderbolts wrote:

QUOTE:
Dear YGA,

The time is right, to reply to you. You were not been ignored. I was busy with UKM and MHK.

YGA. “ Myanmar is in the hands of the people of Myanmar”

T. Generally speaking , they are good advice, good political catch phrases, good political catch words. But not enough, you have to go further, deeper. No double meanings. Every words and phrases need to clarify, in each case. If you study the law, if you have yto draft a law, you can't afford words which will give double meanings.

Let it be known to the world.

Before 1948. Myanmar declares that they intend to nationalised the industries, and to build Myanmar as a socialist Nation. In Ko Aung San speech, he used the phrase,
“ Socialism Khor, Lu Amyar Koung Zar Yey Wahda ” U Nu drove Myanmar to socialism through Phyi Daw Thar Siman Gain , U Ne Win drove Myanmar to socialism through BSPP. making sure Myanmar is in the hands of Myanmar through nationalisation and law “ Socialist Si Pwar Kar Kwe Yey U Baday.”

I have heard over two thousand five hundred years ago some those who were trading between Myanmar and others in in Mitzima Region were two brothers named Thaphttha an Balika , they were going around with 500 bullock carts. But there was no records of Myanmar economic progress and developments.

Myanmars were and are known to be agriculturalists , peasants and farmers Whether they knew about large scale trading or they were expert on trading , we have no liable records of them either.

When we were born we know Tayotes and Kalars and Kabyars were running the Business and they were the traders. There was a name mentioned he was a Mon namely U Na Aut. he went bankrupt in the end.

Myanmar cannot run Myanmar’s economy,. Myanmar cannot run their business, Myanmar cannot trade. Profiteering is against their beliefs.

I was saying since 1948, Myanmar was in the hands of the people of Myanmar. Sure that is all it was. In their hands. nothing more. They c an do what they like. In the first years of independence, aids , grants and loans and donations from here and there plus Japanese war reparations .

Myanmar is like a car engine , when the fuel in the tank gone the car stopped, could not go anywhere. The political alignment with socialist blocks did not help. We cannot put the blame on the socialism or socialist economy. This system works in other nation. even today. It is obvious that Myanmars cannot run their economy. So others don’t want to do business with Myanmars, especially those who feel they cannot exploit Myanmar anymore. The economy in the hands of Myanmars rapidly deteriorating

People don’t like it when I said it, why? Who are the people running a limited Myanmar business in Myanmar? How many of them are Myanmar origin how many of them are Myanmar citizens.

What important is Burmese people have to express their real wish without fear in this coming votes.

People of Myanmar fear nothing. They are not afraid of anything. Because they are like blind people. “ Myet Kan Tasey Makyaut ” They don’t know what the fear is. They fought the British, they fought the Japanese. The whole of their history is filled with wars, they were fighting . If they had no one to fight, they will fight among themselves. That is why Myanmar is in trouble again and again. They have limited “ Karya Swan Ahar “ but no “ Nyar Na Swan Ahar ”. They are lack of thinking power, their brain are weak in that sense. When they are to fight with their brain, they don’t know how to fight. They know they have to be united, but they don’t know how to unite. And somebody says they are in fear. No that can not be right.

YGA.Now, the situation is people has to decide the future of Burma. Not SPDC or NLD or DASSK or Gambari.

T. True, the future of Myanmar , the future of 52 million inhabitants of Myanmar living in the 261,228 square miles Not as Shan, as Chin, as Kachin, as Kayin, as Kayah , as Mon, as Yakhine and as Bamar individually, not as a group from eight main groups as one individual claiming their own little territory as “ Dar Do Pyey - Da Do May - Do Paing De Myey ”. This area belongs to every single one of them. They live together or they die together. In the old national anthem that means 261, 228 square miles of Do Pyay, Do Myey .

YGA.If people fail to show their true wishes, then forget about everything. Burma will never ever comes out from the shit and forever under military boots. So, people wishes is extremely vital this time.

T. Thatis also true. When people have a right to show their wishes, and a chance to show 52 million people may have 52 million wishes. They have to recognise and acknowledge that they are not alone as individual race. They are together as one national race as Myanmars as one people in one nation as Myanmar Naing Gan Daw for all people in it.

What you like may not be what I like. What I like may not be what you don’t like. The like and dislike, the want and the don’t want can wait, at the moment what all people NEED is important. What is not good for me may not be good for you. People must know the WANT and the NEED , the NEED of 52 million people of Myanmar must be a priority.

What Myanmar needs now and Myanmar in the future needs is peace, stability, economic developments, political developments and social developments to the stage we all are living comfortable life.

They have to grow, grow and grow, up, up and up. not down, down and down .

To built Myanmar a modern developed nation, no one person can do it, no one group can do it. We all must do it together, each and individual of us have to do our part, share the burden, share the glory.

ANOTHER ISSUE

YGA. If this referendum is not fair and SPDC do some dirty things, the future is also up to the people. Just let go or another revolution?

T. What dirty? You and your threat is dirty enough. Don’t worry about SPDC, worry for others and worry for yourself . What do you know about this new constitution. Do you really know the meaning of it. Are you clear, digested? Are you a pessimist or optimist You just do your part clean, that is all it needed. .

Let me enlighten you on this, just one point . SPDC is not a political party. It is Tatmadaw. If you are thinking of USDA as a political party on its own or to support NUP the former BSPP, nobody will say you are wrong.

But the bottom line is whoever wins or lose in the coming election SPDC doesn’t care. Do you know why? Do you want to know why? As I know it because there will be 25 % of the Tatmadaw representatives in all the Hluttaws, from the bottom to the top. Nobody had to elect them, defence services will selected them . Like it or not.

YGA. Don't talk about international/US/UK pressure, it will never happen unless there is an interest for them. Sanctions also little affect to the regime. UN can't do much as long as China and Russia are backing SPDC. What ASEAN and India can do is just talking.

T. If there is no interest for then in Myanmar British would not try and take it since 1824 and they had to leave in 1948, but not willing . The reason they left so quick was they had to rebuild their country, they had to rebuild Europe which was the spoil of the war or their share. That why they went easy They knew Myanmar won’t go any where.
British lost nothing they left Japan to take responsibility which was called, “ Japanese Reparation ” for Myanmar “ Sit Yaw Jay “. British only agreed to cancel £15 million debt. What was £ 15 million after they have made incalculable fortune . But not to mentioned the problems they left Myanmar with.

What about US? Among many things they tried to buy the late U Khun Za, and his Homong to have their missile site, When the deal broke off, they issue warrant for the arrest and reward of $2 million was offered for the capture of U Khun Za, Not to forget about their covert operations in many other parts of the world in many other small nations.

What is going on with US and Russia you can see clearly, don't you?

Why do you think the west is supporting Ma Su Kyi for? Democracy and human rights? Why do you think they are putting pressures on SPDC? Democracy and human rights? That may be too easy and simple to understand.

These supports alone is dividing Myanmars. These supports alone is breaking Myanmar into pieces, in tne past and at present. Things are not what they seem YGA, you must understand. Don’t take my words, find out by yourself. I will only say if they have no interest in Myanmar, leave Myanmar alone. If they don’t want to help, don’t disturb Myanmar. Is that not simple enough?

Let me ask you a question, Why are they helping Laos, Cambodia, Vietnam, the communist regimes? Or even China? DO you think it is to weaken the communists?
That is too simple. By the way Myanmar is not a communist country. Myanmar is no puppet to no one. At least SPDC is nobody’s puppet. U Ne Win was nobody’s puppet, U Nu was nobody’s puppet either.

YGA. SO, ONLY BURMESE PEOPLE CAN DECIDE THE FUTURE OF BURMA. AND IT IS UP TO THE PEOPLE OF BURMA.

T. True, to be able to do that . Myanmars must have clear visions. clear hearing most of all , they must not be handicapped people. They need to be healthy physically and mentally. skill, trades professions to build their nation their own nation which is their own house. No its not up to the people, the people must be guided if needs be. We can't leave it to them like that.saying they can do what they like, until such time.

YGA. PEOPLE POWER IS MOST IMPORTANT THIS YEAR 2008 AND IF BURMESE ARE NOT UNITED AND DISCIPLINE, THEN FORGET ABOUT THE FUTURE OF BURMA.

T. True, that is why the people must not be used, the peoples‘ power must not be abused. People must not let anybody, anybody use then and abuse them, never allow them. Unity and discipline are needed even in your own home. A nation is bigger than our own home it is a bigger home for us. With many families unity and disciplines are more needed.


My best regards,

Thunderbolts.

Zynn Yaw,

Have you read or check your own writting?

If you have not read my many long postings, how do you know they are BS and craps?

If you have not read my postings , how do you know they are propaganda stuff?

I am not selling anything, I am not asking you to buy anything
I was having a good discussion with some of those who likes discussions. educated intellectuals. Or exchanging our views.

You are showing your weakness, your inferiorty. Is there ants in your pants? Something is biting you.

You own writtings are telling everybody, showing everybody that you are an idiot. No idiot admits he is an idiots.

Your posting is saying clearly that some people like yourself bother to read. Yet you have read it.

Who do you think you are kidding Zynn Yaw?

You are insulting everybody by taking them to your low down level. They are not idiots like you.

Thanks for your LOVELY REPLY anyway,

Thunderbolt.

thunderboats,

When a duck quacks like a duck it is a duck. When a snake walks like a snake, it is a snake. Same goes with your postings for long time before I "someitmes" use to read your post not sentence by sentence but by jumping here and there. But now 90% I do not read and that is why in my quote and response it did not match with your post with the exception of short posts. I write whatever I like to write, relevant or not (with your post) and you write whatever you like. You go your way I go mine just like this one. Go on discussing with your "educated intellectuals" for I simple don't care. I will intervene or interfer (just like your boses) to other intellectuals (institutions) just like I did yesterday. You can say, write, insult or call me whatever you want, rude, ignorant, illeterate or whatever I don't care but I will invade as an "intruder" for it is my job/task as an AGITATOR (check my profile). I am doing my job. Is that a problem? A man got to do what he should do either in a polite way or evil rude way. I had done it appropriately to what that person deserves.

Zynnyaw (Sea Gull)

thunderbolts wrote:

QUOTE:
Zynn Yaw,

Have you read or check your own writting?

If you have not read my many long postings, how do you know they are BS and craps?

If you have not read my postings , how do you know they are propaganda stuff?

I am not selling anything, I am not asking you to buy anything
I was having a good discussion with some of those who likes discussions. educated intellectuals. Or exchanging our views.

You are showing your weakness, your inferiorty. Is there ants in your pants? Something is biting you.

You own writtings are telling everybody, showing everybody that you are an idiot. No idiot admits he is an idiots.

Your posting is saying clearly that some people like yourself bother to read. Yet you have read it.

Who do you think you are kidding Zynn Yaw?

You are insulting everybody by taking them to your low down level. They are not idiots like you.

Thanks for your LOVELY REPLY anyway,

Thunderbolt.