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Tue Jan 30, 9:52 AM
YANGON (AFP) - About 30 people marched in silence to the US embassy in Yangon in protest at Washington's support for a failed UN resolution against Myanmar's military rulers.

The protesters identified themselves only as "Myanmar nationalists" and stayed in front of the embassy for about 10 minutes, witnesses said.

"They are holding posters in their hand, but there's no shouting or chanting," one witness told AFP.
The protesters in a statement called Washington's efforts to put Myanmar on the UN Security Council "a vivid and ugliest show."

"Is this small and quiet country a nuclear threat, terrorist threat, military threat, narcotic threat or any other threat within the region?" the statement said.

"Better push your Bush into the bush, then you will all have less enemy," it said, referring to US President George W. Bush.

Such actions are rarely tolerated without the blessing of Myanmar's military rulers, and the protesters' posters and statement used the cryptic language often seen in official media when the junta takes swipes at its critics.

"Down with axe handle who wants to grab power through shortcut," the posters read in English.
The junta often refers to pro-democracy groups supported by the United States as an "axe handle" and believes they are trying to cut into their control over the country.

The United States had proposed a resolution at the UN Security Council against Myanmar's government, accusing the junta of posing a threat to regional security because of its failure to make democratic reforms and alleged human rights abuses.

China and Russia earlier this month vetoed the resolution, which called on Myanmar's junta to free political prisoners, end sexual violence by the military and speed up democratic reform.
Myanmar, formerly known as Burma, has been ruled by the military since 1962.

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MY COMMENT.

If you can have it. I must have it.

If these thirty people can march, others would like to march as well.

The whole world knows, US was defeated at UNSC on Burma. Do we have to rub it in?

Burma is foe to no one. Burma wants everyone to be the friends of Burma. And Burma wants to be the friend of everyone.

Why not show Burma is more civilised?

Burmese are known as gentle people with the smile always on their face.

After the defeat of US in UNSC, Burma should be smiling, nothing more to do, just smile. It is more important to smile to the foes as well as to the friends.

Burmese saying " Yo Yo Kyint - Myint Myint Kyan - Mhan Dar Pyaw " be simple - be ambitious - and tell the truth . That is all Burma needs to do.

Thunderbolts.<br><br>Post edited by: thunderbolts, at: 2007/02/01 10:39

SURE, SURE, but what kind of DEMOCRACY???? We have BURMESE WAY OF SOCIALISM BEFORE AND NOW BURMESE WAY OF DEMOCRACY???????
MY WAY OF DEMOCRACY????????
I CAN DO ANYTHING BUT YOU CANNOT DO ANYTHING,
MY WAY OF DEMOCRACY??????

Look at the following headlines, YES, SURE, DEFINITELY, CERTAINLY, we are VERY NEAR TO DEMOCRACY IF NOT THERE ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Prayer campaigners file complaint over Shwedagon brawl Tue 23 Jan 2007
NLD member’s court appeal rejected Tue 23 Jan 2007
: Junta pushes KIO to condemn UNSC intervention - Ko Dee Fri 19 Jan 2007
Burmese daily at odds with democracy advocate - Seth Mydans Fri 19 Jan 2007
Army officers turn to poppy cultivation Thu 18 Jan 2007
On the run with the Karen people forced to flee Burma’s genocide - Pete Pattisson
Wed 17 Jan 2007
Prayer campaigners bashed at Shwedagon pagoda Tue 16 Jan 2007
: Serious blows for human rights in SE Asia in 2006: watchdog Thu 11 Jan 2007
Internet policing in Burma stepped up Wed 10 Jan 2007

Salai Tun Than held a solo demonstration in Rangoon, but was arrested and sentenced to seven years imprisonment.

What about THE YESTERDAY DEMONSTRATION?
ANY ARREST????
REMEMBER THEY ARE MORE THAN 5 PEOPLE GATHERED.

FINALLY, YOU SAID &quot;Yo Yo Kyint - Myint Myint Kyan - Mhan Dar Pyaw&quot;

BUT you NEVER DO WHAT YOU WROTE.

I think there can be no doubt that the &quot;demonstration&quot; in Rangoon was staged. Burma is no democracy, and a demonstration cannot take freely place without the permission from the authorities.
In this case I would think the &quot;demonstration&quot; was organized behind the scenes by the authorities.

John

Demonstration is still ILLEGAL in our country.
and here is some interesting comment:

Thakin Chan Tun, a veteran politician in Rangoon warned the junta that using unfair practices will create more complications in Burmese politics and endanger national reconciliation.

“The military government should act thoughtfully. I would request it not to be biased, and not recruit and groom henchmen. If people demonstrate outside the Chinese and Russian embassies, will they allow it?” Thakin Chan Tun asked.

Dear All,

&quot; What kind of democracy&quot;, was the question.

Burmese way of democracy, Burmese way to socialism, Burmese way, Burmese way, Burmese way, because we are Burmese , what‘s wrong with that? We have our way. Don't you have your own way?

Socialism or Democracy or Communism what way and whose way are they ?

If we are talking about democracy we will find the democracy that practice in many parts of the world or in many countries are not the Athenians way of democracy or the Greek ways of democracy where democracy is founded originally many thousands of years ago. Democracy may be democracy, but it doesn't mean it is right. That is why some countries hold
&quot; veto power &quot; to counter democracy. Is that veto power for democracy or against democracy I would like to know.

Let me put it this way, US will eat jucy beef steak grill on charcoal, UK will eat roast beef slowly roasted in the oven. Burmese will eat Ame Nhut or
stewed beef in Burmese style cook in the clay pot.
Chinese will eat beef with black bean sauce stir fried in the wok, and many other people will eat beef in their own traditional way. But beef is beef. Just because they prepared it in their own style the beef doesn’t transformed into dog meat, the beef is beef, it will always, you cannot deny beef is not beef, because there are so many ways of cooking beef. The essence is the beef.

It is true Burma is not a fully grown democratic nation yet. Freedom of political activities and movements are still limited. It is also true SPDC is not a democratic government. It is a military government trying to move towards democracy. What SPDC is doing may not be the democratic way.

Slander, blunder and smear campaign against SPDC is neither democratic way. We have seen not only in Burma but in many countries, slander, blunder have created chaos and lawlessness. These slanders and blunders and acting on false information is destroying many nations, killing many lives.

As I understand it, the full rights to practice party politic is not high up on the agenda, because the nation needs all her strength for nation building and national unity at the moment The time will come after the New Constitution is drafted, and before the election for the political parties to do party politicking but not at this stage where 10 political party will affect the national unity and drain away her strength.

Burma is looking for democracy, not hypocrisy and the human rights for its people, not the might is right. Burma must start to build up her democratic institution with solid foundation first and from there it will expend and develop into a much higher level.

The freedom to exercise full political rights will come when Burma reaches a more mature stage where unity of the people becomes stronger and when fundamental needs of population have been fulfilled to a much higher level.

And the demo- campaigners are dodging playing hide and seek , they are teasing the authorities, they are provoking the authorities. They will use any place,. including the holy place like Shwedagon Pagoda.

In Burmese history, when Tharrawaddy Min ( King Tharrawaddy ) came down to Shwedagone Pagoda with his army and paid homage to the secret Pagoda. British could not do anything about it, because Tharrawaddy Min did not break any law. The King renovated Shwedagone as necessary British just watch without breathing and without blinking . If only Tharrawaddy Moin had broke the law then nobody could imagine what would and could have happened under the British.

To break the law or not is up to individual. NLD and its leader had advised the people to break the laws. SPDC is there to see law breakers are dealt with accordingly.

Since SPDC announced that anyone can make an official complaint, the complaints never stopped. It is important that democracy not to become mobo-cracy, chaos and lawlessness like it was in 1988. Democracy is never with unlimited freedom. Democracy has it’s limits.

Democracy or not, ruling government in any country will do whatever it is necessary to maintain peace, law and order in the nation. It is to believe that in Burma. Drafting of new constitution is nearly finished. Within a year or two there will be democratic elections and civilian will have the power to rule Burma according to New Constitution.

At the moment or at anytime in Burma present rulers or the future rulers will do anything to safeguard the nation. They will always have in mine that prevention is better than cure. They might take necessary actions in advance before anything serious events happen again, for the sake of the people for the sake of the nation.

Thunderbolts..<br><br>Post edited by: thunderbolts, at: 2007/02/03 22:03

Thank you for your extensive and thoughtful posting, Thunderbolts! I appreciate that you go so much in depth in your argument.

I do have one question for you, though:
How do you look at the elections that were held in 1990? Did they not show a clear result? And is it not true that the military governmend decided not to respect the will of the people?

What gives the generals higher credibility this time when they once so blatantly disregarded the will of the people?

John<br><br>Post edited by: Sandvand, at: 2007/02/04 00:44

Dear Bolt and NUTS
If you come up WITH FACTS it is not a slander or smear campaign.
If you finds that somebody is breaking the IMCOME TAX act, why don’t you charge and sentence for avoiding taxes. There is a law to deal with TAX AVOIDER. If you don’t do anything except saying and accusing, DEFINITELY it is a SLANDER and SMEAR CAMPAIGN and this is NOT THE FIRST TIME.

””
And the demo- campaigners are dodging playing hide and seek , they are teasing the authorities, they are provoking the authorities. They will use any place,. including the holy place like Shwedagon Pagoda.
In Burmese history, when Tharrawaddy Min ( King Tharrawaddy ) came down to Shwedagone Pagoda with his army and paid homage to the Pagoda. British could not do anything about it, because Tharrawaddy Min did not break any law. The King renovated Shwedagone as necessary British just watch without breathing and without blinking . If only Tharrawaddy Min had broke the law then nobody could imagine what would and could have happened under the British.””””
As you can see even the Kind Tharawaddy used Shwedagon for his purpose but THE BRITISH did not do anything because he DID NOY break any rules!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WHAT ABOUT THE PRESENT PEOPLE WHO CAME TO PRAY FOR THOSE WHO CANNOT COME. ARE THEY BREAKING ANY LAW??????
SEE BELOW:
Tuesday prayer campaigners doused with water
Thirty activists were doused with water by pro-military groups and special police yesterday during a weekly political prayer meeting at Shwedagon pagoda in Rangoon.
Activists Detained at Shwedagon Pagoda.
WHY???WHY???? WHY????

IF, IF, you are right BY SAYING SPDC is there to see law breakers are dealt with accordingly.
WHAT ABOUT THE CASE OF DEPYEEYIN?
IS THE LAW DEALT WITH ACCORDINGLY?????
HAS ANY INQUIRY BEEN DONE FOR THIS CASE?????
WHY??? WHY??? WHO IS BEHIND THE SCENE ????
Is SPDC there to see law breakers are dealt with accordingly?????????

Let’s see AsIseIt’s paragraph below here . . . . .
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WHAT ABOUT THE PRESENT PEOPLE WHO CAME TO PRAY FOR THOSE WHO CANNOT COME. ARE THEY BREAKING ANY LAW??????
SEE BELOW:
Tuesday prayer campaigners doused with water
Thirty activists were doused with water by pro-military groups and special police yesterday during a weekly political prayer meeting at Shwedagon pagoda in Rangoon.
Activists Detained at Shwedagon Pagoda.
WHY???WHY???? WHY????
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Usage of AsIseeIt’s prayer campaigners????? – my little boy himself naively admitted that these prayers were also campaigners who somehow took advantages of their praying as POLITICAL ADVANTAGE and proven that WHAT were their motives behind praying and much respected buddhism prayers role was distorted BEING POLITICAL TOOLS from propaganda machine.

Oppositions radio interviews with their (prayer campaigners) were proven facts that they became craps called activists more to make propagandas rather than simple praying sections.

To balance up the above matter,

Greens may somehow violate the freedom of expression (praying in this case) , simply because greens who repeatedly declared stability is a vital in a country like Myanmar – remember, SOME TRY TO CREATE OPPORTUNITIES FROM CHAOS. (proven recent photos of almost rioting situations, fotos taken by opp.websites are also no doubt part of propagandas)

As little boy AsIseeIt mentioned above as prayer campaigners (paranoid usage – right?) who must have propagandized more on activist work than simple praying despite campers also can pray. It seems like nothing more than being a propaganda tool from propaganda machines. Who distorted Buddhism – with their all about campaigning mindsets – until taking advantages from Buddhism – APPALLING, TERRIBLE, WICKED right? Everyday, WHY thousands of genuine prayers in shwedagon pagoda have no problem – days in days out. We can see DIFFERENT MOTIVES – PRAY FOR SOMEONE AGAINST PRAY FOR PROPAGANDA. IT MUST BE SOMETHING DIFFERENT FROM GENUINE PRAYERS VS PROPAGANDA-PREOCCUPIED MINDED SO-CALLED PRAYER CAMPAIGNERS (AS SAID BY ASISEEIT)! USELESS RIGHT! GEE!

Prayers who simply pray have GOOD RESULTS.
Prayers campaigners who pray and campaign must have DIFFERENT RESULTS. COUNTER-CAMPAIGN RESULT! WHAT ELSE YOU EXPECT? GEE!

Campaign Vs Counter-campaign – an equal opportunity? Have you ever heard before? Never? FAIR – RIGHT?

They’re there for nothing but propaganda tools? Ask them – they knew!

Please do not regret with the usage ‘prayer campaigners’, the perfect example of one sided oppositions who have to fear themselves for incompetent, immoral and bias fanaticism. We need quality people, remember!

Some Cannies KNOW only their Masters want them to see and WHOOP OUT LOUD only their masters want them to shout.

They think they are serving great for Burma.

I am sure that the author of this topic is browsing this forum everyday although he ran away from this forum.

THE RECENT DEVELOPMENT OF EXTENSION FOR ANOTHER YEAR, REMIND ME OF THIS TOPIC.

HELLO, PRETENDER, IS THIS THE SIGN OF DEMOCRACY?????

IS THIS THE SIGN OF DEMOCRACY????

TRUTHSEEKER