no capacity, it is proven!!!!!

Have I touched the nerve, look pumpin' and shoutin', doin' core business?

You have said it ZynnYaw, you have said it. Why not, you must be the decendent of Daywadutt. There are lots of people like you. What is your belief anyway.

The communist critised Buddha like you do.

Over two thousnd five hundred years ago, there were those who opposed Him. who even tried to kill Him. Who launched smear campaign against Him.

He over came everything. But he did not die like a pig as you said, he died after eating pig meat called pork. May be that's why some people in the world do not eat pig meat (pork). Are you one of them?

We are talking about Buddha and His teachings, but what you are implying and what I am saying are totally different about Him and His teachings. Everybody can see that, let you be forgiven.

Is that your last attempt, before you are taken down.

Don't make your lifer longer, and suffer more. Be a good boy.

Thunderbolts

Now you are talking (to me) again. Didn't I tell you, you WILL come back to me again AFTER wishing goodbye to people like me?
Yes, I had said it what I think/believe. You had said it "God was created by man (human)". To me it is the opposite, "Man (human) was created by God" so you see thunderbolts, we are fundamentally different in belief. In fact it is the opposite. OPPOSITION is natural in free and democratic society. I accept that. I don't know what your society is? Guns and lies society or guns and jails society or boots and arrests against "opposition" society. In a sense, I really don't know what you mean by "God/Gods"? How do you interpret the word "God"? What is the defination of "God" may I ask? Can you elaborate that in YOUR understanding? I want to clarify one thing though and this is MY understanding. Religion was created by humans. This I accept. Now, there is a difference between "Religion" and "God". Do you understand to this point thunderbolts?. I do accept the notion of "Religion" was created by Man (humans) and that is why there are Buu-Ditsism, Muslim, Christianity, Mohomaddins, Confusiousians and so on. Atheists do not accept any religion at all. They have their point. I understand that. Each person had the right to whatever belief or disbelief for he/she is entitle to. As there are many races, regions, cultural backgrounds, religions created by humans differ. Do you follow me to this point Mr. thunderbolts? When you say "Gods" do you mean religions? The reason I ask is that there is and can be only ONE and TRUE God without an "s" and again that is my belief and my point. There is no such thing as "Gods" with an "s". You said Sun, Moon, Jupiter, Mars , Winds and so on "Gods". Well, to explain that, it is very simple to me. Those are "Planets" or natural forces created by "God". Do you understand what I'm sayin'??? So for example, for those who worship, let's say to the "Sun" I would rather say those people are "Sun worshippers". They may have their own belief but to me they are worshipping the SUN and not GOD. Like wise, to me when a founding fool guide many people, the people who follows him become fools or misguided. Can you understand this logic thunderbolts or is it hard to understand ? for you maybe?
Here the catch! Don't be naive when the world is watching. I don't care if the whole universe is watching for I present my thoughts and not any one's. I present my thinking and my way. I use my own brain and no one else. I do not had to rely on others when the creator had created my own brain. What is that called thunderbolts? I will say it to you and the world. It is called INDEPENDENT among many humans/brains. That is why even YOU do not know or even guess what religion I belong? Some people brains are washed or tainted by hegemonic masters. Mine is not and it is written on the net as proof. Like you said many are reading what we write. Maybe millions around the world. I admit I am blunt, bold, provocative and straight to the point and that hits the nerves of many for the only thing that I value and care of is the TRUTH or finding the TRUTH and ofcourse genuine JUSTICE or fairness should I say? don't forget the father of modern science Mr. Einstein tried to find the TRUTH and died searching to read God's mind. He did believe in God although he is a profound scientist.
What makes you so sure of the events that happened 2,500 yrs ago? is it real or true or is it base on fairytale hearsay or fictitious makeover where Boat-Da tooth or hair lies everywhere in Asia. Did he scattered his tooths and hairs all over Asia before he die in the Indian jungle? He took a Boeing Jet 747 and disperse his remains before he die? Who fly his plane? You? Does it make sense or does it sounds FOOLISH? For a fool it will make sense for a fool always believe in foolish things. Asia is a big continent you know or you don't know? Did you see Boat-Da yourself or are you saying a hearsay that carried from one generation after another or even imported from India or where ever? Does your knowledge base on myths or fairytales and so on and so fort? Can you prove it that Boat-Da is the special guy or enlighten one of yours who left his family (in present era what he did is crimiaal for when a husband leaves his wife and family, that is called "abandonment" and he can be charged criminally) and ran away into the jungle and die like a fool eating poke as you say?
I think I better stop for now for I hate long and tedious statements.
Before I leave I sincerely, honestly and truthfully believe the entire UNION does not, have not, cannot and will not believe in Buu-dism imported from a foreign land India or what ever for all the ethnic people of Burma do not belief in you or your masters' buudism. Don't come and tell me the handful of Burmese Kings or Queens imposed a foreign grown, man made religion myth as the UNION's religion for IF you and your masters do, there will be chaos and fighting till the end of time itself. TRUTH has witnesses and there are many. Do you really sit down and take a deep breath and think why Burma is the ONLY nation on Earth that has a civil war still going on for the longest period of time? Do you know, Mr. Know everything? Do you notice no ethnic person from Burma participate in this forum? None what so ever. Do you realize that?


thunderbolts wrote:

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You have said it ZynnYaw, you have said it. Why not, you must be the decendent of Daywadutt. There are lots of people like you. What is your belief anyway.

The communist critised Buddha like you do.

Over two thousnd five hundred years ago, there were those who opposed Him. who even tried to kill Him. Who launched smear campaign against Him.

He over came everything. But he did not die like a pig as you said, he died after eating pig meat called pork. May be that's why some people in the world do not eat pig meat (pork). Are you one of them?

We are talking about Buddha and His teachings, but what you are implying and what I am saying are totally different about Him and His teachings. Everybody can see that, let you be forgiven.

Is that your last attempt, before you are taken down.

Don't make your lifer longer, and suffer more. Be a good boy.

Thunderbolts

Very interesting, very interesting indeed.

Who is or what is God?

I did not know you have thay much of knowledge .

Can you enlighten us more about Jesus Christ and Mohammed please.

You should write a book and publish it. Or give a lecture at the nearest university or in a public place.

Thunderbolts.

ZY,

First, for your information , I will talk to anybody who knows how to talk in civilised manner. Opposition or not . I will not talk to anybody who are vulgar, rude, uncivilised
Some people who know me already, how rude I can be if I want to. Every action has its equal and opposite reaction , that’ s the saying

But thank you for your lecture on Jews. Before I go to that here is some thing which is not fiction , not tall story, or a bad dream. It happened only a few years ago on this planet earth, in other word in this world.

I am not asking you to believe in Buddha and his teachings, There are lots in the world who do not believe in Buddha, but they don’t show or speak against Him or disrespect. Because they know from their heart, that there are differences in the world and they accept as they are. They are called civilised people. They have self respect and respect for others as well. I don’t mind talking to those kind of people. Some time I met very rude people. Once or twice I responded to them back rudely. I found that I was only pulling myself to their level, which is low, vulgar, unprofitable and so on. For example, when the dog bites me and if I bite back, I am the one who will become dog, you see, the dog won’t become a human because he bits a human, that sort of thing.

There was a true story, in Afghanistan a few years ago , thousand of years old Buddha Statues were blown up by the Taleban, apparently without any reasons. They were just Statues of Buddha carved into the mountain wall by some thousand of years ago, these Statues were harming no one.

It did not take long, soon after that Afghanistan was totally destructed by the allied forces. Not by the Buddhis who believe in Buddha and his teachings by others. Many guilty as well as the innocent were killed. Taleban are brave enough to attack the Statues which could not even harm a fly. They did it for joy to please themselves for their own satisfaction. In the end these Taleban had to run away like dogs, they had to run away like pigs from their own country from their mother land. Afghanistan is not even a country to be called a country. The Talabans are stateless. Other Afghanistan, people of Afghanistan are living in hell on earth.

In the United States of America there are four previous Presidents including George Washington, Abe Lincoln were carved into the rocky mountain. If only those were touched by the Taliban , I am sure there would be at least four nuclear bombs on Afghanistan. What about the twin towers of New York, Saddam Hussein had to pay for them.

The sins of the father visit upon the son.. I did not know where that saying come from. I heard some people said it.

My parents told me that all religion, including Buddhism not a religion but which is a way of life are believe to bringing civilization into this world. I should respect them . I found that was true, because of disrespect to one’s religion by the other, the wars broke out. It is not only recently but since thousands of years ago, the so called “ The Crusade ” . I is well known as part of history of the world , or was it a creation of Hollywood film industry?

Religion is civilisation , that is what the citizen of the world believe, at least. B ut frankly speaking I do not know about those who are aliens, and those who are not human beings, what their belief is..

Now let us go to your reply. Thank you ZY, but I am not very convinced yet, may be my ears are far away from you, may be I have no basic knowledge of Jews and the Gentiles. Especially when you said that “Jews, I do not need to explain for the world knows and familiar with Jews.”

Why did you not explain to us, what are the things that the world knows about the Jews and what are the things the world is familiar with the Jews. I ask you this, because it may not be the same as what you know about the Jews, it may not be the same as what you are familiar with the Jews. What do you know about the Jews, what are you familiar with the Jews, please? I would be grateful if you kindly explain more about the Jews.

By the way, what is the world doesn’t know about Buddha, what is the world does not familiar with Buddha? May I know please. Buddhism spread around the world since it was recorded in Thekata language.

Now I know what you know about the Jews but you are not telling us all. What Hitler know about the Jews, what other Gentiles know about the Jews may be different from you. Why Muslims extremist ant to kill Jews. What have the Jws done to be hated like this. As I do not know about the Jews, I have no comment, but only questions. You may be able to tell us.

Who said Jews are the chosen people by God. Who is this God anyway? God of Abraham? God of Jehovah? God the father of Joseph the biological father of Jesus,? Who actually was Jews used to worshipped a Bull, did they?

I always believe that so called God created all men equal . How did they (Jews) have to be different from others, super beings? I heard about a story called Merchant of Venice . That was just a story for a play any way, written by a mad man may be.

The word “ OCCUPIED ” you used, how come. Is it the same meaning as rob or steal, taken by force without permission, or consent?

You referred to some films, Biblical stories . If that is so, I also have seen some films as well which portrayed Jews as slaves. They belonged to the slave race working for the Egyptians that time.

With a promise to be freed , the Israelites had to build the Pyramid . After it was done the slaves were freed. In the Ten Commandments “ starred Charlton Heston as Moses, He made Egyptian Pharaoh Ramsay free the Jews. They roamed the desert and at one point, they pointed and say that was the promised land . What I am not sure is how many times Jews were made slaves, how many times they were freed. Who’s slaves are they now? I am ignorant on these , Moses went up to Mount Sinai. After spending days, he came down with two slaps of clay which were said to be written by so called God said to be His commandments. Which you already know what they are. Who actually give the Jews this land which is now called Israel together with protection. Is that the promised land and who is their protector? I would like to know, please if you don’t mind me asking silly questions.

Winners or losers I don’t know, may be I have been misinformed, to believe Arabs are the wealthiest in the whole wide world sitting on black liquid gold. They don’t want war, either. Egypt , Syria and Jordon were trying to teach Jews ( Israel) to behave if they want to live among them.

Jews are cursed, condemned people. They are stuck with their old stories. Another way of calling them is “ they are chosen people ” to live in hell on earth since history of the world was recorded.

Let me make the story short again. I m not interested in wars, I do not like warmongers either. I am one of the an-ti war people .

Do you know Jews won’t be able to sleep at night peacefully? They are living dead they don’t have enough sleep, in their life, they are living nervously, paranoid. That’s the way I see them, I may be wrong.

No one is responsible for anyone, everyone has his/her own responsibility to him/herself. They reap what they sowed, is that it? Kammas, deeds, merits whatever one calls it. You have your ways of putting things, I have my ways as well.

My last two question to you if you don’t mind. First, do you think and believe, whatever is written in the so called HOLY BIBLE , should it still exits, the so called Old Testament and new Testament? Who wrote that Holy Bible, when did he/she write it?

Holy Bible , translated into BURMESE language was done by Mr. Judson who was happened to be in Burma with the Christian mission.

550 or 547 stories which were supposed to be the lives and the deads of Gautama Buddha were written by Nyaung Gan Aye Saya Daw, one of the most learned Buddhist Monks. after careful research of Buddhist scriptures which were written in Thekata language . I understand that before it was translated, the stories of Buddha and his lives were already spread all over the world in Thekata language. That makes me understand how the Buddha’s Statues happened to be in Afghnistan mountain.

Second, where did you learn all these you were telling me about Jews, and Gentiles? Self enlightened? Have you read some books or documents?
You believe them without questions, other wise you won’t be telling me. All these. These stories how old are they? Fictions, made to believe, legends tall stories , what are they and where did they come from? There you are ZY.

Lastly the UFO that you were about to tell me next, I don’t want to know . Because the only UFO I know is UFO. That is enough.

Have a good day,

Thunderbolts.

Jews are chosen by God. I cannot, willnot question God. His decision is his and his knowledge is infinity. Who am I to question God? When God said this or that take it, no questions ask. This is called obedience. I never, yes never question God's will whether I like it or not. God knows my inner feelings and that what God look at it (the heart thunderbolts, the heart/mind).
As for the Jews, ofcourse people differ in understanding for no 2 person is alike in thinking or understanding. I had no problem whatsoever with that. All I want to emphasize is that I acknowledge the judgement of God with absolute obedience. No question ask (to God).
Remember God is the ultimate RULER of the entire Universe or Universes. In worldly terms do you ask Than Shwe why he did what he did. Do you?
As for the books I do not rely on other people's brains and like I said I am independent and rely, respect, beleive, trust and had confidence in God and God alone. In other words I do not read any book except the Bible which the word of God. Now, don't get me wrong as I am "self enlighten" man and this is your say or word. To me there is no such thing as ENLIGHTENMENT. To me knowing, understanding and solving difficult problems are all part of God's creation of human's brain. We all as humans and have brains which mean we all are created EQUAL but it depends upon the humans individually how they used their God created brains. Some used a lot some use somewhat and some don't used at all. Brain is like a knife. The more you sharpen it the more it cuts effectively. So how an individual uses his/her brain affected him/her. For me there is no such thing as "enlighten" for we are not bulbs or switch. It is your kind of usage or others but certainly not mine.
If you really want to know more about the Jews, there are thousands of books, as you are one of the "book readers or book worms should I say?" so help yourself. Fair enough? As for the rudeness and polite every one can be rude or polite and we are not here to measure who can be more nastier or wicked than who. The point is I am responding appropriately to that little prick that sprang up now and then from the crack who happens to love checks and balances nagging/nuisance to others (readers). He even nag to linsi, who is not a Burmese, the world knows and she is just doing a noble favor for the plight of freedom for the Burmese people and Burma, just like Aung San Suu Kyi (I know you hate Suu Kyi so much) although she (linsi) is just doing what she can by writing in this Burma forum. My approach is this, if "mg than" nags on linsi then why not I can response with a negative attitude or mood? Why not? You want my hands to be tied and not response appropriately of what he deserves? I am dealing according to the circumstances and situations. Any way let's drop this little prick from a crack and go back to so called "civilized" argumment or discussion.
Where are we? Yes, the books. Ofcouse I do read magazines like Travel and Leisure, Popular Science and stuffs but not books especially when it is thick. Like I said, the only thick book that I read often is the Holy Bible. In short all I had is ME, BIBLE and GOD. That's all. You can assume me or accuse me or what ever but the truth remains the same. I do not read worldly Books.
Now here's the truth nothing but the truth. You assume that the Talibans destroy the IMAGE of Boat-Da and thus they were chase by the allied troops and run away from their homeland like dogs. Yeah? Not for me thunderbolts, not for me. The FACT and the TRUTH is these Talibans were shoot down like dogs and chase away like pigs because they give "sanctuary to Bin Ladin, his associates who train Muslim extremists to become terrorists and destroy the twin towers and Pentagon building" now that's the truth and the root cause of Allied attack for this foolish Taliban Government. NOT because they destroy the statue. Don't used the truth as deception thunderbolts and I am pointing directly how you use deception and deviate or bend the truth.
Will stop for now. Ofcourse you can come up with questions. You got questions I got the answers. How does that sound Mogyothwar?

By the way I am not asking you or anyone else to believe in Christianity or Christ or any religion for religions are man made anyway. I am presenting MY knowledge and MY belief in finding the TRUTH. Nothing more nothing less!

thunderbolts wrote:

QUOTE:
ZY,

First, for your information , I will talk to anybody who knows how to talk in civilised manner. Opposition or not . I will not talk to anybody who are vulgar, rude, uncivilised
Some people who know me already, how rude I can be if I want to. Every action has its equal and opposite reaction , that’ s the saying

But thank you for your lecture on Jews. Before I go to that here is some thing which is not fiction , not tall story, or a bad dream. It happened only a few years ago on this planet earth, in other word in this world.

I am not asking you to believe in Buddha and his teachings, There are lots in the world who do not believe in Buddha, but they don’t show or speak against Him or disrespect. Because they know from their heart, that there are differences in the world and they accept as they are. They are called civilised people. They have self respect and respect for others as well. I don’t mind talking to those kind of people. Some time I met very rude people. Once or twice I responded to them back rudely. I found that I was only pulling myself to their level, which is low, vulgar, unprofitable and so on. For example, when the dog bites me and if I bite back, I am the one who will become dog, you see, the dog won’t become a human because he bits a human, that sort of thing.

There was a true story, in Afghanistan a few years ago , thousand of years old Buddha Statues were blown up by the Taleban, apparently without any reasons. They were just Statues of Buddha carved into the mountain wall by some thousand of years ago, these Statues were harming no one.

It did not take long, soon after that Afghanistan was totally destructed by the allied forces. Not by the Buddhis who believe in Buddha and his teachings by others. Many guilty as well as the innocent were killed. Taleban are brave enough to attack the Statues which could not even harm a fly. They did it for joy to please themselves for their own satisfaction. In the end these Taleban had to run away like dogs, they had to run away like pigs from their own country from their mother land. Afghanistan is not even a country to be called a country. The Talabans are stateless. Other Afghanistan, people of Afghanistan are living in hell on earth.

In the United States of America there are four previous Presidents including George Washington, Abe Lincoln were carved into the rocky mountain. If only those were touched by the Taliban , I am sure there would be at least four nuclear bombs on Afghanistan. What about the twin towers of New York, Saddam Hussein had to pay for them.

The sins of the father visit upon the son.. I did not know where that saying come from. I heard some people said it.

My parents told me that all religion, including Buddhism not a religion but which is a way of life are believe to bringing civilization into this world. I should respect them . I found that was true, because of disrespect to one’s religion by the other, the wars broke out. It is not only recently but since thousands of years ago, the so called “ The Crusade ” . I is well known as part of history of the world , or was it a creation of Hollywood film industry?

Religion is civilisation , that is what the citizen of the world believe, at least. B ut frankly speaking I do not know about those who are aliens, and those who are not human beings, what their belief is..

Now let us go to your reply. Thank you ZY, but I am not very convinced yet, may be my ears are far away from you, may be I have no basic knowledge of Jews and the Gentiles. Especially when you said that “Jews, I do not need to explain for the world knows and familiar with Jews.”

Why did you not explain to us, what are the things that the world knows about the Jews and what are the things the world is familiar with the Jews. I ask you this, because it may not be the same as what you know about the Jews, it may not be the same as what you are familiar with the Jews. What do you know about the Jews, what are you familiar with the Jews, please? I would be grateful if you kindly explain more about the Jews.

By the way, what is the world doesn’t know about Buddha, what is the world does not familiar with Buddha? May I know please. Buddhism spread around the world since it was recorded in Thekata language.

Now I know what you know about the Jews but you are not telling us all. What Hitler know about the Jews, what other Gentiles know about the Jews may be different from you. Why Muslims extremist ant to kill Jews. What have the Jws done to be hated like this. As I do not know about the Jews, I have no comment, but only questions. You may be able to tell us.

Who said Jews are the chosen people by God. Who is this God anyway? God of Abraham? God of Jehovah? God the father of Joseph the biological father of Jesus,? Who actually was Jews used to worshipped a Bull, did they?

I always believe that so called God created all men equal . How did they (Jews) have to be different from others, super beings? I heard about a story called Merchant of Venice . That was just a story for a play any way, written by a mad man may be.

The word “ OCCUPIED ” you used, how come. Is it the same meaning as rob or steal, taken by force without permission, or consent?

You referred to some films, Biblical stories . If that is so, I also have seen some films as well which portrayed Jews as slaves. They belonged to the slave race working for the Egyptians that time.

With a promise to be freed , the Israelites had to build the Pyramid . After it was done the slaves were freed. In the Ten Commandments “ starred Charlton Heston as Moses, He made Egyptian Pharaoh Ramsay free the Jews. They roamed the desert and at one point, they pointed and say that was the promised land . What I am not sure is how many times Jews were made slaves, how many times they were freed. Who’s slaves are they now? I am ignorant on these , Moses went up to Mount Sinai. After spending days, he came down with two slaps of clay which were said to be written by so called God said to be His commandments. Which you already know what they are. Who actually give the Jews this land which is now called Israel together with protection. Is that the promised land and who is their protector? I would like to know, please if you don’t mind me asking silly questions.

Winners or losers I don’t know, may be I have been misinformed, to believe Arabs are the wealthiest in the whole wide world sitting on black liquid gold. They don’t want war, either. Egypt , Syria and Jordon were trying to teach Jews ( Israel) to behave if they want to live among them.

Jews are cursed, condemned people. They are stuck with their old stories. Another way of calling them is “ they are chosen people ” to live in hell on earth since history of the world was recorded.

Let me make the story short again. I m not interested in wars, I do not like warmongers either. I am one of the an-ti war people .

Do you know Jews won’t be able to sleep at night peacefully? They are living dead they don’t have enough sleep, in their life, they are living nervously, paranoid. That’s the way I see them, I may be wrong.

No one is responsible for anyone, everyone has his/her own responsibility to him/herself. They reap what they sowed, is that it? Kammas, deeds, merits whatever one calls it. You have your ways of putting things, I have my ways as well.

My last two question to you if you don’t mind. First, do you think and believe, whatever is written in the so called HOLY BIBLE , should it still exits, the so called Old Testament and new Testament? Who wrote that Holy Bible, when did he/she write it?

Holy Bible , translated into BURMESE language was done by Mr. Judson who was happened to be in Burma with the Christian mission.

550 or 547 stories which were supposed to be the lives and the deads of Gautama Buddha were written by Nyaung Gan Aye Saya Daw, one of the most learned Buddhist Monks. after careful research of Buddhist scriptures which were written in Thekata language . I understand that before it was translated, the stories of Buddha and his lives were already spread all over the world in Thekata language. That makes me understand how the Buddha’s Statues happened to be in Afghnistan mountain.

Second, where did you learn all these you were telling me about Jews, and Gentiles? Self enlightened? Have you read some books or documents?
You believe them without questions, other wise you won’t be telling me. All these. These stories how old are they? Fictions, made to believe, legends tall stories , what are they and where did they come from? There you are ZY.

Lastly the UFO that you were about to tell me next, I don’t want to know . Because the only UFO I know is UFO. That is enough.

Have a good day,

Thunderbolts.