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UNHINDERED ACCESS or Collar and Lead. 4 Months, 2 Weeks ago
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Dear Patriots,
United States of America said it wants "UNHINDERED ACCESS" to help Myanmar victims.
There was a terrible cyclone in Myanmar in the beginning of this month May 2nd & 3rd. which devastated many areas and destroyed many lives. That is the truth. Those dead are dead, could not even find bodies to bury or to cremate. That is a truth. There are so many estimations , over estimated , under estimated God alone knows. In a case like this and in the case of Myanmar, over estimation is always possible . In some parts of the world. over estimation is always for insurance purpose.
The damage in Myanmar cause by this cyclone is estimated at US 11 billion dollars up to this moment. The lost of human is not counted. For Myanmar the loss of paddy, the loss of ariculturel land is more than anything. That is some thing to think about. The present and the future.
Over estimated or underestimated that is not the point. A time like this, Myanmar needs help. genuine help , humanitarian help, with compassion. All Myanmars should thank to whoever the donor is irrespective of who or what he/she is from if they are honest and sincere.
Myanmar are always living in fear, they said. Since the first day of disaster. Myanmars knew that they will need outside help. helps as much as possible . And they expect genuine helps because this is a humanitarian matter. Myanmars are afraid there will be strings attached , conditions attached by some so called donor nations.
Frankly speaking most western nations, who are against Myanmar all the time.
Now the truth has emerged. Under the carpet of humanitarian aid , the conditions laid down by the Mga Pwa Gyi, namely US so that they can HELP Myanmar’s cyclone victims. I have no doubt that all other European nations are behind US. European nations ceased to be leaders after the WW II. They are merely the followers.
This is a call made by the United States of America the leader of the west at the donors conference. What does that mean?
As far as I can see, HELP is a word which please everybody, Humanitarian is another word everybody like to hear. These words are being use as of weapons, or catch words in politic. It means that United States have a sole right to provide armed security guards to the wear houses where US aid are stored and provide security to the aid workers who are US citizen. If needs be providing security to all foreign aid workers especially from nations which are allied to US.
These security guards will be from the so called private firms which most of the guards are ex military personnel and ex FBA and ex CIA. like those guards in US security guards in Iraq.
The guards will be living in their own portable quarters but there must be no Myanmar army out posts or Myanmar military camps within 200 meters radius of US security camps .
These guards will travel in their own vehicles including amphibious No Myanmar local authority have a right to check them or search their vehicles. No Myanmar local authority have a right to check who goes in and out of those US camps in day or at nights.
Myanmar is given a “ fart ” and a choice either to smell or to breath in. Some centuries ago in many European countries., there was witch hunt. A witch when caught. They were dipped in the water , if they drown and die in the water they are innocent, if they live they are surely a witch, they should be burn a life . Like they did to Joan of Arc in France and in many other European countries.
Myanmar leaders are always very careful to accept foreign aid worker. They have reasons, they are not stupid. Not to make Myanmar a whore house, like some of its neighbours, which are under the influence of US.
Most Myanmars are Buddhists they know about the three worlds. The world of the beings, the world of the impermanence or change and the world of nature.
So they will take as it comes, but they are not beggars. Nobody can make Myanmars the beggars
But Myanmar is in need of genuine help, humanitarian help. How much help they actually need , they will only know.
What the United States is offering is not a genuine help or aid. United States is never honest, never sincere. They never do a thing for others free. They are in the habit of bullying other. Doing things for other to get 9 for themselves and one for the other.
Myanmar needs help, any help from any country who sees Myanmars as fellow human beings, who respect Myanmars as fellow human beings. Who sees Myanmars need genuine helps. Who sees that Myanmars are no wild animals to attached the collar and the lead.
NO COLLAR and NO LEAD PLEASE,
Thank you United States, but no thanks.
Regards,
Thunderbolts.
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Re:UNHINDERED ACCESS or Collar and Lead. 4 Months, 2 Weeks ago
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Sorry I'm busy with important personal affairs. Time to respond to this thunderbullshit nonsense.
The whole posting sounds like a dog in a manger/barn. To be more specific and to elaborate, the dog in the manger/barn cannot eat the hay for hay is created and meant for Cows. But when the Cows came into the barn to eat the hays (their food) the dog barks and protect the hay from the Cows not to be eaten. The dog cannot eat the hay but the dog did not want the Cows to eat too.
Same goes with thunderbullshit. The junta control authorities or workers are not well trained or experienced not to mention they are robbers and criminals from top to bottom deliberately stealing and robbing the International aid goods and surface in the black markets and also, the victims are given with low quality items while the good ones intended for the victims have been cocnfiscated for Military use or for their families. It is well known the ruling junta is nothing but thieves and robbers not to mention they are murderers. How can anyone (both Myanmars and foreigners) trust these criminals? Only a fool with a half brain will. It is recorded that Myanmar is the most corrupted country in the entire world and yet some idiots want the freedom nations to trust them? Are you insane? Are you out of your mind? Are you half crack?
Let the well trained, experience personals handle their job. These professionally trained and armed personals are the most capable personals to do the job done correctly, efficiently and effectively. Like it or not, take or leave it, things need to done in a professional manner and NOT like what the robbers liked to be done. These robbers had robbed the nation's state power and now they want to robbed the food from the mouths of the hungry poor and homeless victims. It is proven they have no heart or mind or mercy whatsoever and never had respect for human's rights. In their way, human is less worth than an animal. Myanmar is one of the most backward primitive, mentally disturb nation on this planet earth. They do not have the technology or the experience or the wisdom or the funds or politically stability. Myanmar is just plain mentally disturb nation that sees "ghosts" whenever they see "white". This is just plain psychotic mental disorder.
US had done and proven in the past with Muslim dominated/majority nation Indonesia and many Indonesian lives were saved on account of the leadership of THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, the most generous nation on this planet earth. USA had done effectively, efficiently and professionally on natural disasters to many nations including Indonesia the TSUNAMI hit nation lately.
Only a dog can bark like him. He is worse than a dog for dog can be trained to behave properly and in a goodly manner. He is way out of repair or recourse and heading towards his dooms day sooner or later with no hope whatsoever to be corrected. In other words a hopeless person with meaningless propaganda, barking worthless howlings becoming the world's most notorious pest in this century.
I can go on and on but for now this much I want to respond to the self deluded, paranoid schizophrenic, half brain damaged/deluted, mentally retarded, emotionally derailed, avoiding like Myanmar chicken (by the way I cut chicken throat and barbeque it), lunatic lurker, nervous breakdown psychopath thunderbull.
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Re:UNHINDERED ACCESS or Collar and Lead. 4 Months, 2 Weeks ago
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ZynnYaw,
Myanmar is facing a natural disaster. It needs help more or less. Any country which experience this kind need helps from others, more or less. It may not be SPDC but Myanmars need help. Like what Ben Ki Moon has said , politic can wait. Who is politikking Ben should made it clear.
That woman BBC correspondent putting words into Ben's mouth " are you aware that SPDC is unsing you, Mr Moon " . She insulted Ben. Ben as Sec Gen of the UN is to be used, he has to serve the members, SPDC or not. He is not supposed to serve only UK and United States. His is not a dictator either. He is UN Sec. Gen. she should know. As she herself is a British she tried to undermine even UN Sec. Gen. These are the kind of things we should be talking about. I myself was not happy about Ben Ki Moon in other cases. But Ben was not doing anything wrong in the case of Myanmar yet.
When Katrina struck New Orlean , US did not accept the help from Germany. It may be because US can afford to do without Germany. It may be because Germany did not support US in war against Iraq, it could well be on a political reason or reasons it depends on how you want to interpret it. . Besides Germany is under the protection of US and its allies (UK). It is nothing but a poodle, since after WW II.
Before I go on any further I’d like to say one thing to you, if only you can understand it. Myanmar is minding her own business. Myanmar expect others to mind their own business as well. If you don’t want to help Myanmar or others, do not disturb Myanmar or others. Myanmar will thank you for not disturbing. If everybody is minding their own business, not to get involved in other people affairs. To help Human to human on level terms. That is what is call civilisation, that is what made man civilised .
Exegerration out of propotion. over dramatising, over extimating or under estimating ( pon Gyi Che in Mhanmar. Lies after lies, hiding the truth If you say SPDC is a liar the world also knows who the other l;iars are. You know them as well, don't you?
In my discussions you may encounter again and again saying that Myanmar is not a colony of anybody . Myanmars are nobody colonial slaves. Though some of them, like you may still like to be slaves, Don’t think others want to be. Myanmar is a free and independent sovereign nation. If you know what that means. Myanmar are free and, independent.
Nobody has a right to undermine Myanmars, nobody has a right to tell Myanmars what to do, nobody has right to dictate Myanmars what to do, nobody has a right to manipulate or exploit Myanmars. If you know the meaning of these words. That is the basic principle of human rights. No matter what it says in the so called Universal Human Rights charter.
SPDC leaders are called a dictators because the west cannot dictate them. For the West Adolf Hitler of Germany Mussolini of Italy, Sterling of U.S.S.R were tyrants, fascist, dictator, brutal rulers against the Jews or against their own people. For the west SPDC is no difference. Because they all tried their best to preserve their country and their people. Their culture, tradition and their customs.
If it was not because of Germany and Japan, the British empires, French empires . Spanish empires would not have fallen. Their colonies may not be free and independent, let alone to become sovereign nations. Have you thought of that? Are you a neo colonialist?
If the bones of the Myanmars can come out and cry , you will hear who the tyrants were, who the fascists were, who the brutal thugs were, who the dictators were.
You are not capable of knowing what is what, black or white. Either you are a very simple person or in other words, a very ignorant person. I think you are the latter.
To be frankly speaking my dear, I don’t care damn about you, whether you are busy or not. Who wants to know anyway.
So you are saying the Myanmars are dogs. And you want the dogs to eat hay, the dogs defending the hay, did you? That thought of you itself is something. How many people know or think the dogs eat hay? Is it possible that if the dog lets the cows to eat the hay. They will ever be cows . The dog may have wanted the cows to change their habit. Is it possible ? Will you eat shit?
“ Control ” is essential, it is needed no matter you translate it or interpret it. There has to be some kind of control, everything must be under control. Whether you like it or not. Some body has to be in charge, whether you agree it or not. In Myanmar, Myanmars should be in charge, nobody else. That is how it should be. Some use the word “order “. Everything must be in order, that cannot be done without some kind of control., that’s for sure.
You think too little of Myanmars whether they are SPED or not. I am not surprise a person such as you, thinks too little of Myanmars and too much of so called Americans You seem to have one ear, and one eye. You are livin among shits so your eye is illed with shit, so you are seeing everything shits. It shows that you have never associated with wise people.
In the teachings of Buddha, in 38 Mingalas, “ Ah Thay Wunna Sa Balanun ” which means, do not associate with bad people. You have committed the first sin, there is nothing anybody can do about it. Nobody can help you.
Myanmar has trained people. There are Myanmars who has the knowledge of doing things. There are Myanmars who know how to do things. They have no facilities . They are denied tools and equipments to do.
You look down on Myanmars and you look up to foreigners (US), that may be your right and you may have your reasons. but that is not right ZynnYaw. Do you think you are right ? The foreigners we are talking about, think they are the super human beings, high class and we Myanmars are primates, low class people . Do you think Myanmars are primates and low class?
It is well known , the whole world knows, all the people on earth know who the thieves are, who the robbers and all the nations know who robbed their countries who raped their countries. Many countries including Myanamrs were robbed by your mother’s husbands or your step fathers who are the thieves and robbers goping around the world and thieving and robbing at will.
I am using plural here, because I don’t know how many husbands your mother had. You as your mother’s son don’t even know who are the robbers. Do you understand what I am talking about ZynnYaw? Now they are trying to rob their former colonial countries which they have lost many decades ago, which has built up wealth again ready to be robbed.
Do you really understand. If not, learn about the Empires and how they were build? Then tell me .
Let it be known that Myanmar is nobody’s colony, Myanmars are nobody’s colonial slaves. SPDC is defending, protecting Myanmar and the people to be robbed and raped by these robbers again . Have you thought of that?
You don’t even have a half brain to learn these or to understand these. You talk like a parrot without understand anything. If there is somebody who has no brain that is nobody else but you, do you realised that? No, I don‘t think you are capable of knowing yourself. Because a loony like you thinks all others are loonies. If there is somebody who is insane, who is out of his mind and who is totally crack , that is you nobody else ZynnYaw.
Myanmars are living in the world as long as all others are living. Myanmars have their way of life. Very simple honest way. Their culture, their tradition , their customs. Do you and your step fathers have these to be called their own culture, tradition and customs? Do you know how your step fathers happened to be where they are now by how? Your mother’s husbands robbed that country from other human beings. Your mother ‘s husbands exploited them .
Myanmars realised that and now they are protecting and defending themselves from being exploited again. Thanks to SPDC. And Some people never stop undermining them , belittling them to influence them. They have been exploiting for centuries no when they cannot exploit, Myanmars, those who defending Myanmars are no good for them.
You don’t even realised how Myanmars are being treated by your step fathers for as long as 60 years. They treated Myanmars as another kind of animals. And yet they accuse SPDC of treating as such. Calling them names, accusing them with anything, launching smear campaign against them .
You have said something right, though. In your own words, “ armed personals are the most capable personals to do the job done correctly, efficiently and effectively.”SPDC is that armed personals ZyinnYaw. Don’t for get that.
Another thing you said was “ they want to robbed the food from the mouths of the hungry poor and homeless victims.” The west been robbing food from the mouth of the Myanmars for years By imposing all sorts of sanctions. They been starving the Myanmar with everything though the programme of brain drain. Myanmars are lucky they still have me and a few others with brains.
For the last twenty years , Tatmadaw and its engineering brigades been building the nation with whatever they have, with help, from friendly nations without strings , amidst economic sanctions, amidst embargos by other unfriendly nations. They have shown you that they are the most capable personals to do the job done correctly , efficiently and effectively. If they get help from everybody without strings they could do more. That is why unfriendly nations do not want to help Myanmar, because they don’t want to give any credits to Myanmar (SPDC) . If there are credits they want them for them selves. But don’t forget they are the ones who impose all sanctions on Myanmar. They are the ones who made Myanmars suffers in the very first place , They could not listen to anybody who tried to say it will have counterproductive.
First they will make people hungry and starve by imposing economic sanctions and then they come and help. Remember ZynnYaw, before they construct m, the have to destruct everything. Do you understand that? No, I don’t think so.
When you said “ They do not have the technology or the experience or the wisdom or the funds or politically stability ”. You know why, because they are denied by the west , by the opposition in Myanma. They don’t want Myanmars to have technical know how., experience , the funds or political stability. The west and opposition do not want Myanmar to progress Myanmar to become modern developed nation,. Because they are afraid, they might not be able to make credit for themselves.
Your mother’s husband or your father took your mother for one thing and one thing only, saying that he loves her so much. Do you want me to spell out what that means? I think I have mentioned about one Kalama Lay story in this forum, if you remember?
“ US has done and proven “ what have they done and what are proven ? Are you using both eyes of yours, are your eyes sight all right ?
Don’t forget how United States of America had “ effectively, efficiently and professionally “ created manmade disasters to many nations. Do you see them or not?
I only wish you can see the positive side of SPDC like your are seeing on U.S.A. The generosity of USA . Do you know how they accumulate their wealth ands funds to be as generous as you said? No, I don’t think you have any idea how they did it.
You need to learn a lot ZynnYaw, before its too late. OK?
Myanmar is not for sale. No matter which Myanmar wants or tries to sell Myanmar. U.S.A is willing to buy Myanmar we know that. Myanmnar can get highest price. At the same time Myanmar will lose its freedom, independence and sovereignty. British regret and they will never forget and forgive themselves for losing Myanmar,. They have in their in mind that “ If I cannot have it - nobody can have it.”
That is why British among others things leading EU to put pressures on Myanmar. Myanmar is its (British ) property. British did not even like to share with France in olden days. Not to forget all other former colonies. To help one another among European Union members to retake them by hook or by crooks, gradually.
Zimbabwe is the next victim, South Africa under ANC is out of control now.
You have mentioned Indonesia, Tsunami, what about it? How can you compare Indonesia and Myanmar? There may be differences between Indonesia and USA. But Indonesia was never threatened by USA or Europe, never imposed economic sanctions, let alone to be unfriendly towards her.
ZynnYaw, United States of America does not want the world to see they are after Islam or Muslims,. But they are., in favour of Jews. Zionists. They are the protector of the Zionists. So they have to make other Muslims at bay while they are busy in the middle east. Indonesia is too far away from middle east, but they have to calm the other Muslim Arabs, contain them. Remember Bali bombing?
Do you know United States is the most hated country in the world. Are you listening to the world opinion? But to be fair, United States have good points and bad points. US may be shouting aloud for freedom. But it never does a single thing for anyone free. It always takes more then what it cost them.
If my posts are meaningless propaganda you would not be attacking me like these. At least you should thank me for given you a regular job on this forum. .
I am glad, you understand the barks of the dog. Where did you learn that knowledge?
Have you have a dictionary near you, to pick up words. Some of them I have used already why are you repeating or they come out of your skull. I know you have no brain in there.
Are you a free Muslim in US , are you the one who has to please US , to have a be comfortable life, not to be disturbed by the FBI and CIA? Are you just a throat cutter?
ZynnYaw, do you realise that we are discussing nothing, for the benefit of Myanmar and its people. But I have discussed them with many others You know why? Because you are not the one who can understand anything. I am glad you are not in Myanmar.
You are a waste, ZynnYaw. I am not wasting any more time and energy on you. There are so many who could not be saved. You have no potential to be enlightened . What a shame. During Buddha’s time Dewadett was one of those, too late to be saved by Buddha.
You can still enlighten yourself. Take a right path, in a right way. Poor man.
Thunderbolts.
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Re:UNHINDERED ACCESS or Collar and Lead. 4 Months, 2 Weeks ago
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thunderbolts, (likewise,I give you credit for calling my real username)
First of all you don't know nothing about me let alone to talk about my parents. Your post shows your weakness, insecurity and nervous break down by insulting my parents. I never bring parents into the fight. I attack you and you only. I don't even mention your parents for this fight had nothing to do with parents. You don't even know what religion I'm into and yet you said I had no brain. Your saying and the reality is far apart, in fact you are a person dwelling upon "assuming" this and that which is all wrong and incorrect. Now by judging by your response, who had no brain and who is ignorant?
Also don't be representing Myanmars for you are nothing but an axe handler for the thieves and robbers of Myanmar, SPDC. Who had voted and elected SPDC, your pathways to say they are the reps of Myanmars? Who? You? Are you also elected by the Myanmars to represents Myanmars and talk shit in this forum? You may posts a thousand post in this forum but with one response I can strike you down as a beheaded Myanmar chicken. You know that don't you?. Now don't you back away and give chicken excuses of wasting time or energy or this/that for you know very well you are very insecure and vulnerable and bring parents into the fight which they had nothing to do with this fight between you and me. You can insult dispicable deceptive things but the TRUTH remains the same, and no one can altered or change the TRUTH.
Stop representing Myanmars for you are nothing but a SPDC axe handler who keep on repeating irrelevant matters and blindly attacking USA. By the way USA "CAN" take out the entire Tatmadaw in 2 weeks if she wants to. Do you understand that or don't you?. I sincerely think you don't understand this much with your prawn head mentality (shit filled brain). If you want to attack me, attack me like a man and don't bring others into this matter. Just you and me in this field of internet forum. How's that? Like wise I want to clarified the REAL (not assuming) situation between the forces of Than Shwe and US forces.
Here are the facts and analysis of mine. By the way I do not represent Americans nor America. I stand alone on MY GROUND.
1) Nargis had preluded the attack at Myanmar Navy and Myanmar Navy is weaken in both materials and manpower. The attack of Nargis is deliberate. I don't give a fOk what you called it either manmade or natural disaster but the damage is done by Nargis and it is in reality.
2) US Naval forces are very near the coast of Myanmar and well prepared, equipped and maintain and with a moment's notice Naypyitaw (half build bunker city) can be flatten and become a parking lot. Do you also realize that?
3) Do not forget Saddam Hussein's Army was taken out and now a new replace Army is in process. True or not?
4) Speaking of armed personals what I meant is the aid foreign workers should be armed to their teeth for they have to work in an environment full of thieves and armed robbers meaning your thakoe tatmadaw. If the forces of Than Shwe foolishly attack these professionals armed workers, they can defend themselves and that is why I mention armed foreign aid workers need to be protected for their lives in self defense. That's what I meant you little Chicken Fool! Not the armed tatmadaw who murder monks and civilians and take the goods of the victims can do the job efficiently, effectively and professionally. Your tatmadaw under the leadership of Than Shwe is nothing but Child soldiers gangs who can't even defend against its neighbors let alone USA for all these Child soldiers do is rape women and girls and gun down unarmed monks and civilians and extort money from the people not to mention the Japanese Journalist was gunned down at point blank whose only weapon is a camera. Now, what do you say to that your little monkey ass prick?
5) By law, Suu Kyi's detention had expired. What the fOk your pathways going to do?
6) Myanmar's economy is in shambles with more and more sanctions are in placed. Myanmar is already in arrears in loans since 1998 and there are no funds available unless the thakoes had to steal more national resouces and sell to chinks or do underground drugs selling.
7) The political situation is very unstable and spdc frantically rigging the referendum to imposed their own Contitution in placed. Do not forget General Ne Win did it in 1974 and THAT constitution is now defunct, a perfect example of imposing UNDEMOCRATIC constitution does not, will not work for peace loving, democratic minded people of Myanmar.
I can go more but this much I will response for now. As for the slave you mention, I just extent my USA Passport and I got it last week for it took only 2 weeks to get it. I had my passport ready to explore any where I want to. Right now Australia is my target and I want to explore the Queenland territory where the Great Barrier Reef resides. Now, does this sounds like a slave? Putow?
It is good you bring up this topic "slave" and also I want to respond to your previous post of saying "whore house" nation. I bet you mean Thailand. You deliberately insult many nations including USA. Here's my response.......................What about Myanmar under the rule of SPDC? What had the country become in their watch? A beggar nation or a prostitute nation or a refuggee producing nation or a least developed nation or famine facing nation? You pick your choice. In fact what I think of Myanmar is the entire nation is just a big JAIL! That's what I think. The people of Myanmar are locked down within the boundaries of Myanmar with restrictions, repressions, oppressions, rapes, murders, etc. Now the victims are suffering of the interference and robbing of the junta's thugs including people like you and some of the authors in this forum. Well I don't give a damn to all of you. fOk all OK?
fOk you, fOk spdc, fOk all these hooligans.
As for helping Myanmars or Myanmar I do NOT want to interfere into the affairs of God's plan or wish. Nargis had already weaken the spdc naval forces and who knows what the aftermath ripple effects of Nargis will do to Than Shwe's regime. I sincerely hope FULLY ARMED PROFESSIONAL AID PERSONALS will enter Myanmar and face guns against guns. Don't make the fOking mistake like Saddam Hussein did by going against USA for he is history, gone, dead by hanging where the whole world sees as witness and his army is smashed and exist no more.
What makes you think your pathway Than Shwe can survive the aftermath of Nargis? Prawn head like you, will think Than Shwe is the greatest, greater than Saddam Hussein, right? Than Shwe already back down (by letting ALL aid workers in) because he is afraid of prosecution for Crimes against Humanity threat that is looming above his head.
Liars always afraid of the truth and justice. Always
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