I have been looking into disasters and researching them.

I would like to look at some interesting events, leading up to the disaster and after, and I humbly ask to be corrected, as I am very ignorant of Myamars history and have only some news articles to go by. But I would like information regarding human abuse leading up to the disaster.
And I ask as you read this ask, if there is a loving strong powerful protector God, would this make him upset?

- its history and the genocide of minority groups:

"Ten villagers, one only three-years-old, lie dead, hunted down by the army and shot. A settlement is razed to the ground after a military raid. These are rare images, all taken at great personal risk, of life and death in eastern Burma in recent years. For much of the last few decades, unseen by the outside world, the region has been ablaze. Human rights researchers believe more than 2,500 villages have been destroyed by the armed forces of the Burmese military junta.
More than half a million people have fled to the jungle or been forced into the Government's relocation camps. They all belong to Burma's ethnic minorities, accused by the Government of sheltering separatist rebels.
When the Burmese army moves into a village, what we normally see is people will run and try and flee. They're often shot in small numbers as they try to do so. One village I was in, two toddlers who had been left behind had been thrown into the flames to die. An old lady who couldn't run was burned to death when the village was burnt down. The villages are burnt down, the animals are destroyed and the village is looted and pillaged. Almost everything is destroyed. In fact, I should correct that. Everything is destroyed."
[TV PROGRAM TRANSCRIPT
LOCATION: http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2005/s1401710.htm
Broadcast: 27/06/2005]

(who will protect them?)

"On September 26 to 27, Myanmar's junta unleashed its troops on hundreds of Buddhist monks who had led anti-government protests in Yangon, sending thugs to beat and round up the protectors of Myanmar's national religion.
The brutal onslaught, that left at least 31 dead, enraged Myanmar's predominantly Buddhist population against their rulers and drew harsh criticism from the international community."

(human life not treated with respect - I am interested if this bears any similarity to the China situation before the earthquake)

- general wickedness:

-- "Whatever you need we can take care of, gambling, drugs, girls — all of it can be arranged," a former casino employee surnamed Wang said as he escorted an AFP journalist past Myanmar border guards to Maijayang.
Protection money is paid to Kachin soldiers but Chinese police also turn a blind eye to the hundreds of daily border violations in return for a piece of the action.
[Benjamin Morgan
Fri, 05 Oct 2007 07:02]

-- Youngsters doing soft porn during the Thinjan festival - April 2008
[Can be seen on youtube]

- The government strong grasp:

"The new constitution promised to institutionalize the dominant rule of the military in Myanmar's future political system, and exclude Suu Kyi on the grounds that she was married to a foreigner, the late Oxford professor Michael Aris.
The country has been ruled by the military since 1962
Bangkok/Yangon - Cyclone Nargis, which pounded central Myanmar over the weekend leaving at least 351 people dead and the country's largest city paralyzed, may force the ruling junta to rethink their plans to hold a referendum next Saturday.
The referendum on May 10 will decide the fate of Myanmar's new constitution, a document that promises to cement the military's dominant role in the country's politics following the next general election scheduled some time in 2010."

"It's a catastrophe," said one western diplomat. "Almost all the electricity poles were blown down. It will take weeks to repair. I don't see how you can conduct a referendum under those conditions."

(note the timing of the cyclone! could it be that God does not approve of the referendum?)

(Yet they went ahead and some warned that it would be costly on human life - this was a mistake I believe)

1 day later:

"The International Federation and Myanmar Red Cross aid effort to survivors of Cyclone Nargis suffered a blow early on Sunday 11 May when the first aid shipment travelling by river to the disaster area sank.

It is believed that the cargo ship carrying relief supplies for over 1,000 people hit a submerged tree trunk and started taking on water. The crew steered to an island but the boat sank rapidly. All crew members, including four Myanmar Red Cross relief workers on board – Tun Tun Win, Wu Shein, San San Win and Kyu Kyu Win, two men and two women – managed to get to safety."
[11 May 2008
By Joe Lowry, Information Delegate, Myanmar]


Many people do not believe in a God. I would like to suggest that there is one.
My learning of him I have noted He does not like it when:
>human life is not valued,
>when people show no value for what He has said is highly valuable.
>when people are treated unfairly,
>when no love is shown,
>when minority groups are trampled down,
>when his ambassadors and workers are shut up and prevented from doing his important work.

I am asking for help and seeing if the places that are hit with disasters match this pattern.

It is my fear if there is not aduquate change in Myanmar, that is pleasing to God, more lives will be lost.

Dear learner man,

This is strange, really strange. I look up at your profile and I cannot find. You had posted just once and you vanished in the thin air?. Are you one of the messengers that belongs to God? After all these years (since 2001 to date) I had never seen or read a very interesting and worth reading article like yours and then you vanished? Any way, either you vanished or temporary suspended, here’s my response to your post………………….

Very important: human behaviour, disasters, God, and Burma. Please respond. 1 Hour, 1 Minute ago Karma: 0
I have been looking into disasters and researching them.

You are one of the few who did the research where many people ignore. You are indeed an intelligent human being.

I would like to look at some interesting events, leading up to the disaster and after, and I humbly ask to be corrected, as I am very ignorant of Myamars history and have only some news articles to go by. But I would like information regarding human abuse leading up to the disaster.
And I ask as you read this ask, if there is a loving strong powerful protector God, would this make him upset?

Myanmar’s history is violent and volatile in the past and present. True Christians are minority and the majority are Buddhist and Christians have been despised, disregard and oppressed for many Centuries since the Burmese kings copy the Indian related Buddhism culture into this land. Burmese still wears “longyis” like the Indians and Burmese food is very much like Indians where rice and curry is their main course/entry not to mention most of these foods are hot and spicy. It is about time the Christians’ God punished them severely. The following postings of yours reveal the nature of Burmese military treatment towards their minority ethnics. Now, the Tatmadaw as they called the military is totally changed since the first dictator of Burma took over the nation at gun point. The tatmadaw that use to be is no more. Now the Tatmadaw under the current dictators are worst than the previous one and the sole duty of the Tatmadaw is to oppressed its own people at will with no mercy or generosity. The following statements of yours reveal it, prove it.


- its history and the genocide of minority groups:

"Ten villagers, one only three-years-old, lie dead, hunted down by the army and shot. A settlement is razed to the ground after a military raid. These are rare images, all taken at great personal risk, of life and death in eastern Burma in recent years. For much of the last few decades, unseen by the outside world, the region has been ablaze. Human rights researchers believe more than 2,500 villages have been destroyed by the armed forces of the Burmese military junta.
More than half a million people have fled to the jungle or been forced into the Government's relocation camps. They all belong to Burma's ethnic minorities, accused by the Government of sheltering separatist rebels.
When the Burmese army moves into a village, what we normally see is people will run and try and flee. They're often shot in small numbers as they try to do so. One village I was in, two toddlers who had been left behind had been thrown into the flames to die. An old lady who couldn't run was burned to death when the village was burnt down. The villages are burnt down, the animals are destroyed and the village is looted and pillaged. Almost everything is destroyed. In fact, I should correct that. Everything is destroyed."
[TV PROGRAM TRANSCRIPT
LOCATION: http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2005/s1401710.htm
Broadcast: 27/06/2005]

(who will protect them?)

"On September 26 to 27, Myanmar's junta unleashed its troops on hundreds of Buddhist monks who had led anti-government protests in Yangon, sending thugs to beat and round up the protectors of Myanmar's national religion.
The brutal onslaught, that left at least 31 dead, enraged Myanmar's predominantly Buddhist population against their rulers and drew harsh criticism from the international community."

(human life not treated with respect - I am interested if this bears any similarity to the China situation before the earthquake)

- general wickedness:

-- "Whatever you need we can take care of, gambling, drugs, girls — all of it can be arranged," a former casino employee surnamed Wang said as he escorted an AFP journalist past Myanmar border guards to Maijayang.
Protection money is paid to Kachin soldiers but Chinese police also turn a blind eye to the hundreds of daily border violations in return for a piece of the action.
[Benjamin Morgan
Fri, 05 Oct 2007 07:02]

-- Youngsters doing soft porn during the Thinjan festival - April 2008
[Can be seen on youtube]

- The government strong grasp:

"The new constitution promised to institutionalize the dominant rule of the military in Myanmar's future political system, and exclude Suu Kyi on the grounds that she was married to a foreigner, the late Oxford professor Michael Aris.
The country has been ruled by the military since 1962
Bangkok/Yangon - Cyclone Nargis, which pounded central Myanmar over the weekend leaving at least 351 people dead and the country's largest city paralyzed, may force the ruling junta to rethink their plans to hold a referendum next Saturday.
The referendum on May 10 will decide the fate of Myanmar's new constitution, a document that promises to cement the military's dominant role in the country's politics following the next general election scheduled some time in 2010."

"It's a catastrophe," said one western diplomat. "Almost all the electricity poles were blown down. It will take weeks to repair. I don't see how you can conduct a referendum under those conditions."

(note the timing of the cyclone! could it be that God does not approve of the referendum?)

(Yet they went ahead and some warned that it would be costly on human life - this was a mistake I believe)

1 day later:

"The International Federation and Myanmar Red Cross aid effort to survivors of Cyclone Nargis suffered a blow early on Sunday 11 May when the first aid shipment travelling by river to the disaster area sank.

It is believed that the cargo ship carrying relief supplies for over 1,000 people hit a submerged tree trunk and started taking on water. The crew steered to an island but the boat sank rapidly. All crew members, including four Myanmar Red Cross relief workers on board – Tun Tun Win, Wu Shein, San San Win and Kyu Kyu Win, two men and two women – managed to get to safety."
[11 May 2008
By Joe Lowry, Information Delegate, Myanmar]

So you see learner man, God had waited more than 4 decades of patience but God chooses the right time and the right place. Those Buddhists who despised and make fun of Christians have to dearly pay for there may be tens of thousands even millions of Buddhists will be affected either by so called natural disaster or man made disaster (by ruling junta). It can be a double punishment or curse for the Burmese. Of course there will be some Christians involved or suffer but their souls will be save by God. God had his plan. What man may propose God disposed. This is the fact and the truth. By the way when God punished Burma he also punished the Guardian of junta >>> Communist China. Within 10 days tens of thousands of Chinese and Burmese died with extreme pain. One is the earthquake and the other is the cyclone.
In a way God had to ‘refurbished’ the earth where many anti-God dwells. I even worry about USA for USA is fast becoming materialistic world and waging war on Christians, and taking God out of their lives. When I first migrate to USA, when I first saw the US money with the words “ONE NATION UNDER GOD” I am so grateful and excited to migrate into the nation where God is above all. Now, I’m not so sure and there are many atheists and non Christians embolden within this nation that it may reach to a point where God will punished America. In fact I see America’s power vanishing slowly.



Many people do not believe in a God. I would like to suggest that there is one.
My learning of him I have noted He does not like it when:
>human life is not valued,
>when people show no value for what He has said is highly valuable.
>when people are treated unfairly,
>when no love is shown,
>when minority groups are trampled down,
>when his ambassadors and workers are shut up and prevented from doing his important work.

I am asking for help and seeing if the places that are hit with disasters match this pattern.

It is my fear if there is not aduquate change in Myanmar, that is pleasing to God, more lives will be lost.

You’ve said it all right man. Keep on the research for research are for those who dare to find answers to question and face on the challenge.

Hi Mynmyat

Don't be rude with our new member because you cannot see his profile. He is not masking, it is Asia Observer that since more one month has a technical problem, soon solved I hope.

Dear Patriots,

This time I must agree with ZyinnYaw. But we need to clearify why God punishes them. Who upset the God. Or shall we leave it to cause and effect or human error or men made disaster? There are many angles to look at it. It depends who you are what you are, where are you standing or sitting. So let's go.

In my messages I have stated, Gods punuishement because people are sinners. They don't follow the teachings of Buddha or any other Buddha like wise elders. Having said that I must repeat that according to Buddhism, there are various kinds of disasters and devastatiosn which the human being can suffer from, which I have also have mentioned in many of my messages, such as Yabyit Shippars, Yathu Myo Ngar Bar, Wai Patti Tayar lay Bar, Byathana Tayar Ngar Bar etc, etc. and I also urged my patriots to ask the meanings of these, to Buddhist Monks and learned persons.

If the dams of the Three Gorges in China and other dams break, it will difinately be the men made disasters, human error, nothing to do with God. Dams are made by men.

Human error, development of a nation is not only confined to the government. People themselves must take the responsibilities as well. People living in unsafe buildings, unsafe areas, in huts on river banks, so close to canals, dyke, living so at the foot of mountains and volcanos etc. This can also be interpreted as men made as well. Where would they go, they cannot be moved without their consent.

Don't forget that we human posses the weapon of mass dustruction. We have used the less distructive weapon on human already.Genocide or not. ethnic cleansing or not.

Prevention, protection, the government does not do, cannot afford to do the real necessities for the people or in the case of these kind of disasters. Because the people do not accept what the government wants to do for them for their own good. Though the government explanes people do not accept. Especially to relocate them to be away from natural dangers. In the case of Myanmar, everything is difficult, almost impossible. You know very well why.

There are a lot of facters. It is human nature, if some thing like this happened , they blame the government, they blame God. Because the Holy Bible told them so. I have refer to Noah and the Ark, two cities of Sodom,and Gomorrah in the old testiments.

The asker called himself " learnerman " not Ordinaryman may want to say something. But he did not. He might like to learn or he mightlike to teach us something.

This kind of disaster and many other kinds are not confined to Myanmar(Burma) only.

I think all people with common sense,who are good scholers will know the importance of human behaviour, disasters, God and Myanmar (Burma) clearly.

I noticed that he started in his first, sentence he said, " its history and genocide of minority groups "

If he had also learned the histories of other nations, the making of other nations, especially the making of United States of America, or Australia, he would not be asking that as question. If only he had learned the history, of Vietnam, the history of Laos, the history of Cambodia, and if he had learned the real meaning of what " genocide " is, he would not be saying that, I am sure.

I also noticed that his(learnerman's) first priority seems to be minority groups. Mon State and Kayin state which were totally devastated by this cyclone . To add a liittle more, the Irrawaddy delta also is where mosr minorities of Mons and Kayins were/are living.

If I am not wrong he seems to be a ricist, he would not like it if I call him that.

If this cyclone in Myanmar is the punishment of GOD, if it is meant for sinners, there is nothing more to say, but it is due to these minorities as human and their behaviours, they are the sinners so the cyclone struck them,and it struck very hard. I hope they are learning the lessons in hard way. Cyclone never touch the innocents, those who are not sinners are speared.

Thunderbolt.