Dear Patriots,,


There is no nation in the world, big or small, strong or weak who can beat the nature, who can cheat the nature. We have seen it many times in our life time.

That is why Burddhists have their own way of dealing with this nature . We human were living in the world , on this earth for millions and million s of years. We have been living with this nature all along. We know we cannot beat them , we cannot defeat them. So we accepted it.

Within these few years, Volcanos eruptions, Tsuname, floodings and land slides. in every where, the whole list of it in nations big or small, strong or weak.
We have to do what we can for the victims afterwords, to give them some relief. materialwise.

Today Myanmar is Myanmar is in need of help of any kind to cope with the present cyclone disaster. Myanmar today is getting more critism, comments, remarks , condamnations, then real helps and aides.

As I have said above , his kind of natural disasters we have seen everywhere, We remember what happened in New Orlean , in United States. We have heard
critisms, comments, remarks and condamnations as well. These kind of critism, comments and remarks were easily available.

But to cope with the disaster is not that easy, especially for Myanmar. The nationa is not ready or not prepared for this kind of disasters. for many reasons. which I am not going into details. and bec ause everyone is entitled to his/her opinion. We may have different oiopinion , whether we accept it or not . for Myanmar all the revenues and earning go wasted killing each other because the difference of opinions are bigger than necessary. That is another story. We all know that as well.

In the case of Myanmar disaster, as far as the helps and aides are concerned There are more enough UN agencies, Red Cross and many other organizations inside Myanmar. Helps and aides can be given through them. It is not necessary to give them into the hands of Sr Gen Than Shew or Maung Aye, Thein Sein or Kyaw Hsan.

Some people even say seeing soldiers helping even say that these soldiers are taken photo opportunities . We that's the way he saw it. He or she may be the person who is only interested in photo opportunity him/herself like their leader Ma Su Kyi. And the way the those who are opposing SPC through the world media is portraying SPDC or the Myanmar soldiers are, as if they are not human beings at all.

I can assure anybody that they are not animals they are human beings , flesh and blood. Only the animals are seeing those beings as another animal.
The way they belittle these soldiers who are protect and defending from them who wants to destruct the nation.

In this fdisaster, United States pledged $1.5 million to help attached with
conditions. United States also has three warship loads of soildiers standing by
near Thailand supported by an aircraft carriers saying they are ready to
help Myanmar, if Myanmar pays green light. What kind of help that may be? Which Myanmar they are talking about.

You can't blame Myanmar (SPDC) for being causious ,oe even over causious, in htis kind of situation or on this kind of help. Three war ships and one aircraft carrier? loaded with solciers and mostn sophisticated weapons?

And UK pledged £5 million. It is the money to buy a house in UK, not
to help a nation. Nevertheless it is a help anyway if only Myanmar
gets it. Thar DU , Thar Du , I will save another one Thar DU for later.

Just one egg for a thousand people and there is plenty of left over. Because each one recieived less then the head of a match stick.

Photo opportunity is the name of the game in politic. It is an oppotunity for any politician , not to be missed. We are seeing every day. Myanmnar and its kleaders from SPDC or the opposition. Even to have their voice to be heard on the radio is the opportunty, a great one . Myanmars are not exceptions.

Some nations in the past taken photo opportunity on the worlds televions pledged help,. money and materials but they never arrived to respective country. All the monies they donate eaten up by their workers and staff as wages. We know all too bloody well, all too bloody familier

Myanmar today needs any geniun helps urgently from international community, not a political or military exploitation. To remind international community , it must know that Myanars daily diet is and they live on rice, NOT BISCUITS.

Because this is not a political matter. What nature give, nature will take away, what nature takes away, nature will give again. In between transitional period will be difficult, very difficult. We need a temporary, breathing space. We will be alright in the end, This is just natural disaster., not the end of the world.

SPDC is not panic, it is keeping cool. It is helping the people as much as you can. People themselves must keep cool. They should not be the victims under their own stempede.

In a country where most people live in bamboo huts, where there is no electricity, where there no running water,where there is no telephone, it won't be that bad. But disaster is a disaster , people are in trouble . they are helpless, they need help. Bamboo and timbers are abundance in Myanmar. Where there is water, there is fish.

After all they are Buddhists. Myanmar been living without the help from international community for centuries. International communitu inposed economic sanctions on Myanmar. in favour of the opposition.

Suddenly they takes interest to help Myanmar . May be they realised they were wrong to impose sanctions. May be they realised this is humanitarian matter, nothing to do with politric.

All helps are appreciated. all helps are welcom. as long as they are genuin.
If you don't want to help, please DO NOT DISTURB.

As for Myanmar one more day won't make any difference. The days will pass away like the storm, they will die down in the end.

Myanmars are fighting and trouble beaten people. Suffering and troiubles are nothing new to them. They have been born and living with it.

Regards,

Thunderbolts.

Dear Thunderbolts,

Since this unfortunate disaster occurred in Myanmar, criticism, comments and remarks are mostly aimed at the Government for not doing soon enough.

If Myanmar’s political situation were normal, without outsiders interfering in Myanmar’s internal affairs, I am sure the Government will accept their help and aid with open arms. The Government will be most grateful for their generous donations and help.

The United States and most Western Countries who were former colonial powers are still forcing their agendas onto the Emerging Countries or Third world countries by economic sanctions; providing financial support to opposition, encouraging and scheming for ‘Regime Change’ and also at times provide clandestine arms to rebels. Behind all upheavals, conflicts and killings over the world, one can see a virtual picture of whose blood stained hands they belonged.

‘US President George W Bush and his wife, both staunch supporter of Burma’s democracy movement, offered their country’s help. What a perfect opportunity for the Burmese regime to start working with its critics’. (Opinion – Irrawaddy)

1. Myanmar would welcome and accept sincere and genuine aid from any International Community with open arms. To accept aid with unreasonable political conditions should be rejected outright, no matter how attractive an offer is. Just beware of the juicy bait and not to swallow hook, line and sinker.
In other words, the Government must be cautious not to let an Arsonist impersonating as a Fireman to come into the house.

‘On Wednesday, French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner said the United Nations should invoke its “responsibility to protect” civilians as the basis for a resolution to force the delivery of aid to Burma, even if has to do it over the objections of the military government.
Some senior UN officials and humanitarian officers including John Holmes, head of the humanitarian section at the UN, feared that this would lead to confrontation. He said that negotiations are still going on with Burmese officials and making some progress.’ (Opinion- Irrawaddy)

2. Cyclone Nargis was a natural disaster of big magnitude; Myanmar Government is not responsible and has no control over it. The Government will try its best to provide food and shelter with limited resources at its disposal because of economic strangulation by the US and the West. True, Myanmar lacks good communication and infrastructure for easy access to these lower regions of the Irrawaddy. However, Myanmar Government has built roads and bridges through out the country. Pathein (Bassein) which took 14 hours by launch twenty years ago can be reached within 4 hours now. Pyapon a delta town hit by Nargis took at least 8-10 hours depending on the tide by launch now takes 2 hours.

Present situation in Myanmar is not the same as Kosovo. On Wednesday, French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner said the United Nations should invoke its “responsibility to protect” civilians as the basis for a resolution to force the delivery of aid to Burma, even if has to do it over the objections of the military government.

Myanmar is a sovereign country and will out be bullied to imposed their will, whether their intention are good. Myanmar wants to open the doors but has to be cautious not to allow rubbish and debris blown into the house. This reminds me of the recent Olympic touch affairs. French President said something about boycotting the Olympic, soon after demonstrations and disruptions started in London and Paris under the guise of freedom of expression. They carry fuel in one hand and a bucket of water on the other hand.

Many critics say that Myanmar Government is slow to respond to International help. The Government will have to consider its first priority which is the State Security.

A doctor at times must come to a vital decision whether to save a patient life or deteriorating gangrenous limb. This is the reason why the Government had to take time in allowing foreign aid to come in, particularly the United States with its Cobra Entourage.

Happy to contribute in AO.

I am Polaris.

very nice to see sensible pragmatic posting in this forum. Like a group of crows cawing opposition slogan and politising the tragedy I wonder whether they have any thing left in them but craving for power!
This is unprecedented scale of destruction we have witnessed in my time and even my parents time. Why are these handful of lackies and their master politising this tragedy of myanmar? If they really want to donate, why do they create problem for the doners in US? why can they not just send a plane load of donation to Myanmar without their so-called experts?
there are many right now helping the victims of this storm hand in hand with the government, there are quite a few who rendered practical assitance to Myanmar.
I also have to voice a word of caution for military, BE VERY CAREFUL in your attitude and providing assitance to these victims. ONE WRONG STEP, you will lose all your credential and credibility which to be honest is not that great among Myanmar in general. there are many things to be done to restore the former glory and reputation of our tatmadaw.
my heart went out for those who lost their families and who lost everything they have. Aftermath of this tragedy, government needs to pay more attention to stability of the nation- making sure to provide essential staples to the people of Nation- Myanmar.

Thunderbolts,

When I think about you Thunderbolts I see someone who speaks for the military government of Myanmar.

Today there are reports of 22,000 to 100,000 people who have lost their lives from the cyclone in the southern part of Burma-Myanmar.

Today there are reports of huge numbers of people at risk of dying because they have no food, water or shelter and are at risk of disease despite the availability of skilled foreign disaster assistance ready at Burma-Myanmar's door step.

There is no doubt in my mind that the military government of Myanmar through it's choices and dealings with foreign aid givers during the last week is enabling a second larger wave of disaster more horrible than the original storm. The Myanmar military is Burma-Myanmar's own worse enemy.

Thunderbolts why is your hand steady, why is your voice so certain and
clear in the midst of this humanitarian disaster?

I can smell a very bad smell that makes me feel numb and sick and I want to throw up my breakfast. It is coming from you Thunderbolds and the Myanmar military.

I call on all Myanmar military persons to understand and embrace their human responsibility and break the sick mold of their fearful leaders. I call the Myanmar military to provide real assistance at this huge disaster scene and enable people who wish to help.

The military leader who slows or stops help for any reason is not a true leader, instead he is a problem and should be stepped on hard.

I call on the international community to walk into southern Burma-Myanmar, armed to the teeth if need be, and take matters into their own hands for the benefit of the people at risk.

What Myanmar military person has the courage and honor to break away from what is stopping the help. What military person will help the people at risk? Is that you Thunderbolts?

I want Burma-Myanmar's doors to be wide open to all help.

nayting

I speak for a group of Burmese professionals some of who are
ex-civil servants of the Myanmar government. I have access to
information and advice.

"I call on the international community to walk into southern Burma-Myanmar, armed to the teeth if need be, and take matters into their own hands for the benefit of the people at risk."

Correct thinking, Now is the time to show who is on the side of the victims and who is against. Smash all resistence and eliminate evil doers like Saddam Hussein out the face of this earth. Don't any one dare to touch US military forces for if any one foolish enough to do will be history. NapyiTaw can become ashes in no time.

Zynnyaw,

You should lead them like Ko Aung San led the Japanese.

This time you will come out from the other side in a tin, my hero!

Dear Polaris ,

You know and I know, but how many people really know is the question. I only hope what you and I and some others are doing in the forum , other people can benefit. enlightened them in one way or the other. .

Smear campaign against Myanmars rulers are nothing new Polaris . You can go back to the time before British had invaded Myanmar in 1823. These are on the records I have nothing more to add.

The smear campaign of the so called allied against those they don’t like or their enemy is nothing new either. Any other leader of any other nation, if they are not American or British puppet , they are either tyrant or dictators , fascists , Nazis, evils or demons.

Only American and the British are the best in the world , they are the Angles. Are they really?

The problem today is to get the aid to the disaster area and d to those who needs them in time. Before the disaster there are difficulties already getting to remote parts of Myanmar. Transportation road, rail and air or by river. Now many areas are flooding where nothing can reach. Not even landing pad for helicopters, whatever we have. All these real difficulties have to put into consideration . You can’t blame the SPDC .

The trouble is, I think we are not getting the true stories. We are hearing what the propaganda machines are telling us. We have to use our common sense. We cannot believe everything and everything they say. We are facing a drama already, we don’t need to dramatised it , more then necessary.

You are right on the spot. I agree , with you, no outside interfering is necessary. Myanmar or SPDC will accept these genuine help and aid not only with open arms but also with great thanks. We Myanmar are not in the culture of “ Kyey Zu Kann “ or ungrateful people.

The more you open your arms and welcome them the more they will kick your chest with their both feet. That is what is happening in Myanmar . Some people are exploiting the situation thoroughly. You know your self. This is an opportunity for some outsiders and opposition to provoke the SPDC. with their insults.

That you know it, that I know it. But how many others know it?.

The outside interferences are so much, Myanmars do not worth a penny. Myanmars are not considered as human beings at all. The economic sanctions against Myanmar is the proof. Because of these un necessary sanctions SPDC could ’t do as much as they want or as much as necessary for the nation and for the people. Thanks to the Myanmar opposition.

A help should be a help. It should not be the advance payment to buy Myanmar off.
That is where honestly and sincerity come in. They are the one who impose the economic sanctions now they are the one to help on humanitarian ground. When is this idea comes into their head. Are they not the people who made the people of Myamar suffer un necessarily by imposing economic sanctions?

To day Myanmar is facing natural disaster, and some body is trying to take a credit forgetting they are the ones who made SPDC unable to help the people. Thjey are the ones who made SPDC unable to but the nation. Especially United States and EU led by Britain. They have done on Myanmar a very good job. Now we are seeing the result for what they have done. In case of emergency like this SPDC has not many resources to cope with.

Myanmar has been ganged up by international community. Who and how can Myanmar trust anybody in the west. Even a world organisation such as United Nations is manipulated by the Unites States . Illegitimate war of Iraq has become legitimate. That is how they are capable of.

Is there anybody twho Myanmar c an trust in the world? If it was not because who understands SPDC position and Myanmar such as Russia and China and some neighbouring countries .

As far as Myanmar is concerned freign influence in Myanmar cost Myanmar dearly in the past. We can go back to Myanmar towards the end of 18 century. Myanmar between France and British, cost the nation. Myanmar had bitter experience in this.
It will cost the same if it is not careful. It is already costing Myanmar as it is. .

United States with three warships and an aircraft carrier is quiet close to Mon and Kayin States. What kind of aid they like to give to Myanmar . Is it for Myanmar as nation is it for Mons and Kayins only? Whiskey, chocolate, cigarettes and nylon stockings together with guns and ammunition? Guns and ammunition is more likely.

United State did not allow any Tom Dick and Harry to aid Katrina. They did not accept humanitarian aid. German plane loaded with aid was ordered to turn beck before it reaches US air space. Was it because it was the aid from . Remember German was one of those who opposed US against war on Iraq DO you want to say humanitarian is nothing to do with politic ? I will tell you my friend. United States never done anything for any one if it can not benefit anything. Politic or not. This is the culture of the so called US if not Americans. We know that don’t we? Only fools and horses do not know.

Myanmars won’t get anything from US free. If Myanmar had accept these aid without questions. Myanmar will be caught in the corner. They are like poisons. They are hazardous don’t touch them.

We also know who is manipulating United Nations. It’s secretary Ben Ki Moon from South Korea is another puppet of United States. If he does not know he is a puppet he is not a human being. He knows but he is working for his own survival , that is another matter.

If you take the face value of what is happening in Myanmar and what everybody is trying to do to help it is pure humanitarian issue. But politicising un avoidable, exploiting the situation is unavoidable either.

It is the right of Myanmar or SPDC, who it will take help or aid from who. Those who wants to send aid and donation , there are centres and organisations which they can send to. Whether they reach to Myanmars victims or not is another matter as well.

If the international community does not trust SPDC. then SPDC have no reasons to trust international community. The international is the one who ganged up on Myanmar. They ignored the fate of 52 million people. They only cared for one person namely Ma Su Kyi the Ingalate Mayar. Who had never been to national school in Myanmar. But Christian missionary schools. Her curse and spell falling on the people. She must be very glad and happy and laughing. I heard the roof of her house was blown off. Why the roof why not her?

Because of reason I said above UN can not even be trusted. But SPDC has no choice, it has to trust some one, in this case. which is United Nations and other friendly nations.
All those who wants to help should go through UN. What’s wrong with that. Don’t they trust United Nations and its agencies, The WHY?

Aid started arriving to Myanmar and they are distributed. This we are seeing on the world TV channels. They are saying something else and showing something else. .

Who are these ? You know and I know. But the animals can not know the human affairs.

In my view, what SPDC is doping is nothing new. Just protecting and defending tye nation and the people, in anyway it can. Myanmars must understand.

Now they are talking about SPDC inefficiency as and excuse for the aid not reaching to other parts. You know and I know the situation, transportation and communication are very difficult. International community does not want to know that . They only want to get to the disaster area.

United States of America did not allow any Tom Dick and Harry into his country. No matter who or what he/ she is.

United States is building a wall between US and Mexico to stop Mexican and other immigrants into its country. If anybody want to go into America, they are subject to its laws, rules , regulation and producers. They have their Air Marshal on almost every plane .

Myanmar is a sovereign nation, with laws and rules and regulations and procedures.
It is a civilised nation with civilised people the same as United States , the same as any other country in the world. Why can’t they respect that. Whay do they always want to bully others. Who are they , are they GODs?

Those who accuses Myanmar for breaking the international laws or norms are those who themselves are breaking every laws of the world or laws of United Nations They are the ones who wants to break the laws of other sovereign nation. .

Polaris , Myanmar is not doing any thing wrong. In this case or any other case. Myanmar is only defending itself from malicious attacks from everybody. Myanmar is not attacking anybody. It is carefully handling and dealing with situation. Everything should be under control. Every human being should know that.

My learned friend, this Myanmar disaster is a very good opportunity for international community to hide their inability , inefficiency in dealing with others crisis in the middle east. Afghanistan, Iraq or Palestinian and Jews.( Israel) Do you also know that Brit and US are sending more and more troops to Iraq and Afghanista, You will know this only when you are in this part of the world.

No matter what SPDC is doing, they are those who are provoking and they are those who wants confrontation. This disaster is not planed , but their ideas are well planned , they were just waiting for the opportunity. Here they are.

Two US military attaché were expelled from Moscow on the day Putin took over as Prime Minister.

Polaris. it is not SPDC which is not allowing as I have said above , SPDC’s arms were wide open , they kicked the chest of SPDC with full force. They came in rushing , they don’t want SPDC to check anything , they would not allow SPDC to check. They are untouchables . Nobody must touch them nobody must search them . These attitudes are not the attitude of civilised people. And yet they call themselves civilised people.

I only hope you can understand more what the international community are trying to do. Whether they like it or not SPDC is the government and SPDC is ruling the country. There are laws, rules regulation and procedures, I don’t have to say more.

Would they let us go into their respective and do what we like ?

Foreign correspondents getting into Myanmar without visa, illegally entering and meet Kayin and Mon refugees who are on opposition side at the border area. Filing all false news on false information. That is how, the job on Iraq was done.

At the moment , Myanmars are suffering. Why are they suffering ? Is it because of SPDC ? Is it because of international community? Is this the curse and spell of Ma Su Kyi or is it the punishments of God for being so ignorant ? What is it?

Regards,

Thunderbolts.

Nayting,

What you think of me is irrelevent. I am who I am, I am what I am. There is nothing you can do about it. You and I are too far apart . So don't worry.

You can think about me anything you like. It does not matter. I do what I believe. Do you believe in something? Don't waste your time on me thinking about me, surely you must have some other important things to do then wasting your precious time on me.

If United States of America and United Kingdom had to listen to the comments by the people like you they would not be in Iraq.

You can speak for anybody you want, but not for me. Because I have my own mouth to speak. You may be representing a group of traitors. A traitor is always a traitor. May be these people in your group are those who are responsible for what happened in the past and SPDC and the people are now paying the debts they owed to the nation and the people . Have you thought of that?

You speak for them, speak for them nobody is stopping you. They may not have their own mouth to speak. That's the problem with some Myanmars, you see that is the culture of some Myanmars. They speak with hire mouth. They let others to do their dirty works. How much they pay you to speak for them?

You speak like a Kayin or Mon insurgent. I am not surprise. I don't care.

By the way, you express your view, I express my view. Is there anything wrong in that?

I don't think it's me who is smelling Nayting, it could be your own mouth, your teeth and your gum, which is faul and which is smelling, because you use your mouth too much speaking for others, not even for yourself.

Where do I sent mouth cleansing liquid or tooth paste and brush. If not you better go and check with the dentist, quick.

Everybody must be certain of what they are saying, why can't I be certain. of what I am saying? Are you certain of what you are saying?

Only God can create this kind of disaster. God did not punish the innocent on. He punished only the sinners. When I said it you won't like it would you? I am referimng to the Bible.

People have to pay. they have to suffer, not for nothing. They must have upset the God or Gods.

If you are a Christian you will know, If you are a Buddhist you will also know. Ask any clergy man with knowledge. There must be someone in your group. who knows. They are not from the streets are they?

Why don't you speak for yourself?

Thanks,

Thunderbolts.

thunderbolts,

Not only to lead, but also I am a Chief Strategist. I order/plan my troops/forces as "stand by" mode and fully prepared to take action if needed. My Naval Forces are ready to take action in short notice. Fully armed with deadly weapons including Nuclear capability. I can crush the enemy/adversary any time any place any where. Forget about Naypyitaw. Even bunkers in Putao is not safe for it is within my missiles (bunker busters) range. In fact, I really don't need to use my troops in crushing the enemy/adversary. My missiles and my fleet of advanced radar dodging stealth technology fighter planes can do the job done deal efficiently and effectively. All my ships are ready to take on the job whenever it is necessary on a fraction of a moment notice. Only fools and idiots will confront my forces for if they foolishly do, they will be history and turn into ashes.

This much I will say as a Chief Strategist. In Myanmar case, it is so easy and convenient for all I had to do is take out the top brass/circle and the people (they hated them) and their younger officers (waiting for the opportunity) will finished off the rest of the job. In other words, all I had to do is to take out a handful of fools or "start" (initiate) a project and the people of Myanmar will carry on and finish up the rest/task.

By the way, my troops are well trained, well equipped (with advance gagets), well informed, well educated, well prepared, highly motivated and most of all they are deadly professionals in carrying out their duty and get the job done quickly, deadly and efficiently/effectively.




thunderbolts wrote:

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Zynnyaw,

You should lead them like Ko Aung San led the Japanese.

This time you will come out from the other side in a tin, my hero!