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The price of protest 1 Year ago Karma: 17  
Very interesting article in Irrawaddy about female political prisoners in Burma.

Prison life in Burma is hard enough for able-bodied men; for women, it can be a vision of hell.


READ THE ARTICLES HERE

Any comments?

John
 
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Re:The price of protest 1 Year ago Karma: 25  
It is probably harder for women to be in jailed for the freedom of their country, because they are more fragile and mainly they are separated of what they love the most : their children.
 
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Re:The price of protest 1 Year ago Karma: 2  
The ICRC had clandestine relations with insurgent groups

According to the responsible personnel, the government did not prohibit the ICRC from visiting jails. In their visits to the jails, ICRC personnel mostly met the prisoners who were in the list given by anti-government groups at home and abroad, and provided assistance for such prisoners family members only. Separate meetings with such prisoners were followed by unrest and protests at the jails in consequence. Moreover, the authorities found out evidences that personnel of the five regional offices of the ICRC had clandestine relations with insurgent groups.

Such activities harmed State’s sovereignty, stability, peace and prevalence of law and order. So, the authorities had to hold discussions to lay down new procedures. Nonetheless, the resident representative of the ICRC did not accept the point and unilaterally stopped visiting prisons. Since its birth in 1863, the ICRC has stood as a noble organization that carries out independent and neutral humanitarian services. However, we perceived that the points of the announcement are just wrong assessment based on made-up stories and exaggerated accusations of anti-government groups.
 
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Re:The price of protest 1 Year ago Karma: 0  
SOME PERSONAL ACCUSATIONS HAVE BEEN REMOVED FROM THIS MESSAGE BY THE MODERATOR. PLEASE KEEP A TONE OF RESPECT FOR OTHER USERS IN THE FORUMS. /John


You ......, what is that to do with price of protest and ICRC matter? You don’t even know where to post your message is related, no wonder, the country is in mess. Also I have never seen a word of mentioning calling rebel to the pro-democracy group in international press. The whole welcome and admire the ICRC except you and your ...<br><br>Post edited by: Sandvand, at: 2007/08/25 22:53
 
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Re:The price of protest 1 Year ago Karma: 5  
Ha! Ha! Ha! Blaming, always blaming others, now in the name of Myint Lwin. Ha! Ha!

Myint Lwin, I don’t want to write but because of you, I have decided to write what I know and let the readers be the JUDGES (your favorite words when you cannot counter)

If you have evidence, that personnel of ICRC offices had clandestine relations with insurgent groups, WHY DON’T ARREST THEM???? Having relationship with the insurgents is a VERY SERIOUS OFFENSE, A TREASON!!!
WHY NOT ARREST THEM (I am sure thate you have no evidence but accusation)????? IF THAT PERSON HAS A DIPLOMATIC IMMUNITY (I DOUBT) WHY NOT DECLARE A PERSONA NON GRATA.

I am sure it is NOTHING BUT just slandering and smearing campaign as usual only this time using the name of Myint Lwin.

Not only the political prisoners suffered but also the family. Since most of the political prisoners are kept far away from their home, to visit them, the family has to travel a long distance (some times it takes two or three days of traveling time). On their arrival they have to report to the authority concerned (not the prison) and wait for their approval. It takes times and money to visit them.

WANT ME TO WRITE IN DETAIL OF THE VISIT BY THE FAMILY MEMBER OR ICRC VISIT??????

Truthseeker knows the truth



 
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Re:The price of protest 12 Months ago Karma: 2  
It is true that army men made people afraid of them. This is their weapons to secure their chairs.

But are they brave? The whole Burma knows that they will beat, torture and shoot after making sure they tied victims up and they cannot be attacked by victims. Though they declare Generals, actually they are bandits and robbers according to people's dictionary.


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Very interesting article in Irrawaddy about female political prisoners in Burma.

Prison life in Burma is hard enough for able-bodied men; for women, it can be a vision of hell.


READ THE ARTICLES HERE

Any comments?

John
 
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Re:The price of protest 12 Months ago Karma: 7  
Dear John,

Political life in Burma is not without its cost. This is true for both man and woman. As they say in Burmese politics, &quot;your mother may give birth but it's the prison that feeds you&quot; (a-may-ka mwei; htaung-ka kywei).

There are also, at least, two kinds of people who get involved in politics. One, those who are willing to make sacrifices for the betterment of others, like Daw Aung San Suu Kyi, her father, Min Ko Naing and others. The other kind is 'opportunists' and we call thme 'sa-pha naing-gan-yei thama' or those who sit on the fence. These are like 'bats' caught in the war between the birds and the mammals. When caught by the birds the bat showed his wings and claimed to be of their kind and when caught by the mammals he showed them his 'teeth' and claimed to be a carnivore.

All in boils down to is that whatever action one takes, without conviction (what we called in Buddhist terms - cetana) then nothing good can be gained out of it.

Just to imagine those women who are being imprisoned for what they believed in, the pain and humilation that they have to go through is beyond our reach. Most families in Burma have to go through with it whether you are from the military or civilian.

How can the rest of the world stand by and let these happen- whether they are in Burma, Zimbabwe or Tibet- is unthinkable? I hope those of us who are fortunate to be able to express or opinion freely should do something to gain their release. Like Daw Suu said, &quot;use or freedom to protect the freedom of others&quot;.
 
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Re:The price of protest 12 Months ago Karma: 7  
Dear U Myint Lwin,

You must be ignorant to say that the ICRC has cladenstine relations with the insurgents. Have you ever make an effort to look at the charter of the ICRC?

You'll be like a peacock showing off your bright coloured feathers while at the same to you've failed to realise that your backside is bare.

If not in the conflict situation, working as an immediatory between the two parties at war, where can they be?

I don't mind you taking the side of the military regime but shouldn't you be brave enough to say so openly? No wonder our country is in such a mess.
 
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Re:The price of protest 12 Months ago Karma: 0  
Warrez!

Then how about?
between American gov't &amp; Al-Qaeda?

YES or NO?????

More reply on this link: soc.culture.burma http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.burma/browse_frm/thread/491e8c9f8dc99210/cc0d87a77aef096e? hl=en#cc0d87a77aef096e
 
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