UKM,

Let me not praise myself. I am not that kind. I also talked to keep politic aside, becaus this is purely humanitarian matter. I don't nee any credit. I also did what I had to do calling for understanding among all Myanmars. Why don't you check the forum?

It's good of you , you have done your part good. I must say. I cannot say you were wrong. In fact there is nothing more you can do or I can do.

I don’t mean to be odd or to upset you and others for being so blunt and abrupt. I did not know the sweet words and I am not a humble one either.

You know as well as I do Myanmar is known as Buddhist country and most of the Myanmar people are Buddhist. But how many of them are good Buddhists.
Many things are happening to these people in Buddhist Myanmar. I do not know who is responsible for all these happenings, disasters or devastations. .

There are Buddhist Monasteries and Buddhist Pagodas, not to mentioned meditation centres. Buddhist Monks and Buddhist Nuns. You cannot count them. If you try to count them you may be in trouble, a big trouble.

That is why Nandaw Shey Saya Tin said, we Myanmars are very rich people . Whether he meant what he said or he was sarcastic in a way. I am not sure

11 Prittas are very familiar most Myanmars know them by heart. When you are in Myanmar , any part of Myanmar 4:30 a.m in the early morning you will hear nothing but Buddhist Monks saying prayers, through the loud speakers.
They don’t care whether some body is sick or tired or sleeping because of hard work the day before. They don’t who is what, all the Monks was doing is doing a good deed , saying prayers, “ Tayar Yey Aye Tite Kywey “ What are other Monks doing everyday I wonder.

That is the Myanmar Buddhist tradition, human rights can wait. Do you understand what I am saying UKM. Many people such as I need enough sleep. to refill energy, to recharge our battery to go to work next day.. That loud speaker is violating my right. My human right UKM. What would you say? Can they not do other alter native ways? Do they have to do that? Are they not forcing on others, whether they like it or not. If they don’t like it they can drop dead , is that ? But this is a Buddhist tradition, we are Buddhist this is our customs. That is just one instance UKM just one. How did they do it before loud speakers were introduce to Myanmar.

Now we have this disaster in such a magnitude, according to the media. We are not on the ground to see ourselves. Disaster and devastation no matter how small or big they are people are suffering. People needs help. Prayers won’t help UKM. If prayers did help, Myanmar won’t be like this. Because Myanmars have been praying in all of their life doing nothing practically, to better their lives, but praying and giving away whatever they have as Dana.

What you are talking about is to pray and help each other. Where can you go wrong when you say such lovely, sweet words. Even if you pray to God, God doesn’t know who to help, because everybody is praying, asking for his mercy.
You can say there are so many Gods, as much as the sand at the bottom the River Ganges, one of them will hear and answer. That is a good hope.

Today in this disaster and devastation knowingly this is a pure humanitarian matter. Some people are playing politic. politicising. As I have said earlier. Myanmar is poor in everything. That poverty is men made. Cyclone is not men made. if it is a man made one, who could that man be? That word “man made” came out from the mouth from a member of the opposition in Thailand. Our own people I believe. My answer to that is it is not a “man made” it surely is a “ woman made ”. What do you say to that UKM?

Yes true, there are many countries trying to help Myanmar. No doubt about it. But I said it before , Myanmar do not know who to trust. Because some of these countries are known exploiters. They will exploit anything, politically, economically, socially. Especially when Myanmar is as desperate as now in humanitarian matters. Myanmar can not say YES , cannot say NO. Those countries who wants to help Myanmar what do they want from Myanmar? At least democracy and human rights. The helpers come in peace and will stay in the country as long as they are necessary, is that it? It is very familier tune don't you think? To the delight of the opposition.

Condalisa Rice said it is nothing political. it is just for humanitarian matter. Lovely words don't you think?

That was how European went over to the West all the colonielist went over to other countries, in peace, remember?

I am not looking at or taken a face value. I always look at what is under the carpet. What is behind the silk curtain , what is behind the iron curtain You can’t blame SPDC for being so careful or over cautious. Who made them acting that way I just wonder. SPDC has all the good reason to be cautious or even over cautious. They are responsible group of Myanmars.

UKM, there are nations which has the culture of telling others what to do. What SPDC was saying is , help us if you want, but please do not disturb us. Is that too much to ask?

Nobody should take Myanmars as stupid idiots. Don’t be a naïve UKM.

Myanmar is not a poor country, Myanmars may be poor with their own reasons Myanmar is one of the least developed nations. SPDC is trying to make Myanmar a developed nation, but who is making SPDC difficult to do a good job. With difficulties they have done what they could.

Ko Kyaw Myaing, you must have been to Myanmar lately or recently. Have you studied the people of Myanmar ? Have they changed ? If so what way and how? Myanmars are as free as the birds. They don’t care about anything. They don’t care for anybody. They will make fortune out of other peoples miseries. Myanmars are not alone UKM, there are others as well.

Myanmar is a most corrupt country, that includes the people. You cannot put them aside. SPDC is corrupt, the people are corrupt, they are fit for each other. All people in Myanmar are corrupt including Buddhist Monks, Buddhist Nuns. Buddhism is highlighted by the Buddhist Monks last year. We don’t know about Christians, Muslims and other religions in Myanmar.

Overseas Christian after converting the animists into Christians are helping some Christian in Myanmar especially the people from our hilly region with some ideas and funds to by weapons.

How many Muslim terrorists in Myanmar we do not know yet. We have not seen their actions yet. They are still busy making money with their restaurants
( Htamin Saings) . How much are they corrupt ?

Chinese as well doing fine with their restaurants and take aways. How much are they corrupt?

Let me strike with a long bamboo, they are all “ De Pote Hte Ga De Pe ”. Is that fair enough. How much they have to corrupt officials for them to survive.

Now the price of an egg gone up from K120 to K1000, drinking water from K250 per litre to k2000, rice from meat poultry and fish from K 600 to K900 per 10 tickles.

UKM what is 11 Prittas any way? The real meaning of them in simple Myanmar language, I mean ? Praising somebody? I only want to know how you will answer. It would very nice if you can explain what these Prittas are.

If you praise somebody enough, you will be free from suffering, you will be free from troubles, you will be speared or you will even be escaped from danger , is that it. Praising somebody , offering Dana. Can that be translate or interpret as corruption?

UKM need I say more? No, I don’t think so.

Christian Bible could be right. in this case. The story of Noah and the story of two cities Sodom and Gomorrah. All the sinners were perished by the act of God. I am not belittling the Buddhism or Buddhists. In My view it would be best to take this Buddhism out of the politic. You may even create Buddhist Terrorists or Buddhists convert to other religion if they don’t become animists.

Well this time God has speared the lives of 51 and a half millions out of 52 million in Myanmar. It may be the warning, serious warning to all Myanmars and all people on earth. Do not commit sins of any kind. Killings, telling lies, committing adultery, stealing, taken intoxicated material. Committing those five precept alone can make you perished it is punishable by God.

So many killings, so many lies, so many rapes, so many stealing, so many intoxicated are being taken. Everybody is corrupt in Myanmar. Do you blame God for punishing them? Can you defy God, can you challenge God, can you undone what God had done?

To which God will you advice the people to pray UKM? For you it may be Buddha . I am sorry, Buddha does not want to know. You have to pay for what you have done. That‘s what Buddha said.

Again what I am saying, is these disaster strikes, because people are not observing the five precept s which they should. Prayer won’t help UKM
That is for sure.

I only hope this disaster is not the beginning of all other disasters to come. Because Myanmars are so corrupt they have to pay the price. They won't get away.

Do you realise the most devastated areas are Mon and Kayin States, and some time in the past it has been Yakhine State?

Regards,

Thunderbolts.

Dear Thunderbolt,

Parittas are from the Buddhist tradition. They are meant for protection. They do not ask any God for any favor.

I know Myanmar is made up of people with various beliefs but the majority are Buddhists. So the Buddhist will pray anyway, whether you like it or not. That is their right. Also, other can pray if they wish. That is their right.

What I am proposing is to take action that will help the cyclone victims. People have to learn "self-reliance".

According to the law of Karma, we get what we deserve.

So whatever good or bad happens to me is the result of karma, past, present and future. That is what I believe.

I want to emphasize that "prayers help" in their own way. That is my belief. Whether you believe it or not is your right. I have no say in this matter whether you pray or not or whether you belive in Buddha or not.

That is your individual conscience and I have to respect that.

Nice talking to you my friend.

Regards,

Km

Dear Thunderbolt,

This is what you wrote:

"11 Prittas are very familiar most Myanmars know them by heart. When you are in Myanmar , any part of Myanmar 4:30 a.m in the early morning you will hear nothing but Buddhist Monks saying prayers, through the loud speakers.
They don’t care whether some body is sick or tired or sleeping because of hard work the day before. They don’t who is what, all the Monks was doing is doing a good deed , saying prayers, “ Tayar Yey Aye Tite Kywey “ What are other Monks doing everyday I wonder."

This is my response to your posting regarding Eleven Parittas:

1. First of all if you are a Buddhist, and I think you are a Buddhist, I want to explain what Eleven Parittas are. I think you have a misunderstanding here. These Parittas were handed down from generation to generation for the "protection" of the people. It does not matter who is reciting them. It may be a Buddhist monk or a lay person. It does not matter. The only thing that matters is that they are more effective when the persons who recite them keep the Five Precepts. If they cannot keep all the Five Precepts then they should try to keep as many as possible.

2. Prayers have been known to humanity since the beginning of time. Some people pray to God, to Buddha, to Allah, to Mohamed, to Jesus. They do this because of individual belief. Whether their prayers have been answered or not is another matter. But people do what they believe. Belief systems are very important. They are at the foundation of society. When we pray to Buddha and recite his Nine Noble virtues we know that he cannot hear us. How can he? He has passed away. He is no more. The Buddhists believe he has entered Nivarna. So how can we benefit by reciting his Nine Noble Virtues. Just take one of them. Arahan. Arahan means "he is the person who will not do bad things whether he is alone in public view". When a person says "Arahan" many times he looks to the Buddha as the teacher and tries to get inspiration from his conduct. That is why we do the prayers and that is why we do the "seit badee". So what happens in our minds is very important. Some times the body may be suffering but in times of danger people pray and for that moment at least they get some form of relief.

3. Many people believe in angels, nats and devas. I do not know about you. The parittas are effective because all these holy devas are around all of us. When they hear our prayers they can help. The Buddhists believe that if we invoke the name of the Buddha and ask the devas for help, we really do get help.

There are many more things to discuss about this subject of Parittas and prayers.

I hope you appreciate this sharing of what I know.

I do not know everything, nor do I claim to know eveything.

However, if people allow me to explain, I will share what little I know so that those who do not know may get benefit from it.

And once more thing, Mr. Thunderbolt, I know that all of us reap what we sow. These are the words of Jesus. Buddha also said our karma (good or bad) follows us like a shadow.

Metta,

Km

Dear Zynnyaw,

I can understand your anger and frustration.

The majority of the people in Myanmar/Burma cannot see CNN.

Those Burmese who are outside the country can watch all the TV channels they wish.

At this very moment UN Secretary General has expressed is frustration at the slow pace of cooperation from the SPDC government. He said the situation can turn from bad to worse (not his exact words, just summarizing)if the pace of cooperation is not quick.

I just wish to point out that in our 1947 constitution and in the BSPP constitution "freedom of religion" is there.

Even in the present constitution of the SPDC (via the National Convention), "freedom of religion" is there.

That is all I wish to say at this moment.

Good to discuss with you on this forum.

Metta,

Km

UKM,

Thank you for trying to enlightened me. I don't think you understood me very well.

Let me put them in another way by asking you these stupid questions.

ARE THESE PRITTAS PROTECTTING MYANMARS AND ITS PEOPLE, NOW AT PRESENT OR IN THE PAST? How you will answer is up to you, it doesn't not matter to me.

My answer is NO. U Kyaw Myaing, NO. They don't protect you. If they have protected Myanmar and its people . Myanmar and its people would not by like this. Don't you understand what I am saying UKM.

You know what? Myanmar is a GOD forsaken country. people of Myanmars are GOD forsaken people. Myanmars are prisoners of their own. Because they misinterpreted Buddha's teachings, they mistranslated Buddha's teachings. They took it as religion. Because some Buddhist Monks and clergy people misguieded the people. The people put their trust in the Monks and clergymen without questions. Shall we say, because Myanmars are ignorant, they become stupid, they become idiots. That is what they are.

As a mtter of fact, these teachings of Buddha are "the ways of life ". From HIS first summon, Dama Setkya, four b=noble truth, eight fold paths to 38 mingals. Telling us how to live in life, how to behave in life, the dos and don't of it in life.

You cannot say I am a none believer. I may not be the way you are but I believe in Buddhism the way it should be. I think, I believe in Right Way. To help my life is to help others, because Buddhism is the way of life.

When Christinity which is just abit over 2000 years old is under scrutiny, why can we put Biddhism which is overwell over 2500 old, under scrutiny. We won't go to hell for doing so.

How many " Sangayan " we hold. as long as the real meaning of Buddhism is with hold. Those who called themselves Buddhists will be fakes and bogus Buddhists I am telling you. They are nothing more then robbers and decoits. They are robbing from people peacefully, none violent way.

In one or many of my messages . I mentioned that what should be done in Myanmar by the people to help themselves , to help others.

The misguidence is weaken the people, weaken the nation. It should not happen to any people, it should not happen to any nation. If the people are weak, the nation will be weak. You don't need to see the astrplogers or Ponna Lay.

Forget about opposition at the moment. Myanmar and its people are already wea without them. Need I say more UKM. That is where Archilles's heel is in Myanmar. Please do not try to make Myanmar weaker than what they are now.

UKM, we can create heaven on earth, we don't need to go to a place, we do not know where it is. You can go to the moon, you can go to other stars and planets, because we can see them, we are seeing them where they are.

Leave the Buddhism or any other religion alone, they are alright on their own. DOn't complicate them, people can confused. That will be too bad.

I am glad that you are still in the forum. I was afraid and will be very sad if you go into the monestery and misguide the ignorant people.

Respects,

Thunderbolts.