Zynnyaw,

You should lead them like Ko Aung San led the Japanese.

This time you will come out from the other side in a tin, my hero!

Dear Polaris ,

You know and I know, but how many people really know is the question. I only hope what you and I and some others are doing in the forum , other people can benefit. enlightened them in one way or the other. .

Smear campaign against Myanmars rulers are nothing new Polaris . You can go back to the time before British had invaded Myanmar in 1823. These are on the records I have nothing more to add.

The smear campaign of the so called allied against those they don’t like or their enemy is nothing new either. Any other leader of any other nation, if they are not American or British puppet , they are either tyrant or dictators , fascists , Nazis, evils or demons.

Only American and the British are the best in the world , they are the Angles. Are they really?

The problem today is to get the aid to the disaster area and d to those who needs them in time. Before the disaster there are difficulties already getting to remote parts of Myanmar. Transportation road, rail and air or by river. Now many areas are flooding where nothing can reach. Not even landing pad for helicopters, whatever we have. All these real difficulties have to put into consideration . You can’t blame the SPDC .

The trouble is, I think we are not getting the true stories. We are hearing what the propaganda machines are telling us. We have to use our common sense. We cannot believe everything and everything they say. We are facing a drama already, we don’t need to dramatised it , more then necessary.

You are right on the spot. I agree , with you, no outside interfering is necessary. Myanmar or SPDC will accept these genuine help and aid not only with open arms but also with great thanks. We Myanmar are not in the culture of “ Kyey Zu Kann “ or ungrateful people.

The more you open your arms and welcome them the more they will kick your chest with their both feet. That is what is happening in Myanmar . Some people are exploiting the situation thoroughly. You know your self. This is an opportunity for some outsiders and opposition to provoke the SPDC. with their insults.

That you know it, that I know it. But how many others know it?.

The outside interferences are so much, Myanmars do not worth a penny. Myanmars are not considered as human beings at all. The economic sanctions against Myanmar is the proof. Because of these un necessary sanctions SPDC could ’t do as much as they want or as much as necessary for the nation and for the people. Thanks to the Myanmar opposition.

A help should be a help. It should not be the advance payment to buy Myanmar off.
That is where honestly and sincerity come in. They are the one who impose the economic sanctions now they are the one to help on humanitarian ground. When is this idea comes into their head. Are they not the people who made the people of Myamar suffer un necessarily by imposing economic sanctions?

To day Myanmar is facing natural disaster, and some body is trying to take a credit forgetting they are the ones who made SPDC unable to help the people. Thjey are the ones who made SPDC unable to but the nation. Especially United States and EU led by Britain. They have done on Myanmar a very good job. Now we are seeing the result for what they have done. In case of emergency like this SPDC has not many resources to cope with.

Myanmar has been ganged up by international community. Who and how can Myanmar trust anybody in the west. Even a world organisation such as United Nations is manipulated by the Unites States . Illegitimate war of Iraq has become legitimate. That is how they are capable of.

Is there anybody twho Myanmar c an trust in the world? If it was not because who understands SPDC position and Myanmar such as Russia and China and some neighbouring countries .

As far as Myanmar is concerned freign influence in Myanmar cost Myanmar dearly in the past. We can go back to Myanmar towards the end of 18 century. Myanmar between France and British, cost the nation. Myanmar had bitter experience in this.
It will cost the same if it is not careful. It is already costing Myanmar as it is. .

United States with three warships and an aircraft carrier is quiet close to Mon and Kayin States. What kind of aid they like to give to Myanmar . Is it for Myanmar as nation is it for Mons and Kayins only? Whiskey, chocolate, cigarettes and nylon stockings together with guns and ammunition? Guns and ammunition is more likely.

United State did not allow any Tom Dick and Harry to aid Katrina. They did not accept humanitarian aid. German plane loaded with aid was ordered to turn beck before it reaches US air space. Was it because it was the aid from . Remember German was one of those who opposed US against war on Iraq DO you want to say humanitarian is nothing to do with politic ? I will tell you my friend. United States never done anything for any one if it can not benefit anything. Politic or not. This is the culture of the so called US if not Americans. We know that don’t we? Only fools and horses do not know.

Myanmars won’t get anything from US free. If Myanmar had accept these aid without questions. Myanmar will be caught in the corner. They are like poisons. They are hazardous don’t touch them.

We also know who is manipulating United Nations. It’s secretary Ben Ki Moon from South Korea is another puppet of United States. If he does not know he is a puppet he is not a human being. He knows but he is working for his own survival , that is another matter.

If you take the face value of what is happening in Myanmar and what everybody is trying to do to help it is pure humanitarian issue. But politicising un avoidable, exploiting the situation is unavoidable either.

It is the right of Myanmar or SPDC, who it will take help or aid from who. Those who wants to send aid and donation , there are centres and organisations which they can send to. Whether they reach to Myanmars victims or not is another matter as well.

If the international community does not trust SPDC. then SPDC have no reasons to trust international community. The international is the one who ganged up on Myanmar. They ignored the fate of 52 million people. They only cared for one person namely Ma Su Kyi the Ingalate Mayar. Who had never been to national school in Myanmar. But Christian missionary schools. Her curse and spell falling on the people. She must be very glad and happy and laughing. I heard the roof of her house was blown off. Why the roof why not her?

Because of reason I said above UN can not even be trusted. But SPDC has no choice, it has to trust some one, in this case. which is United Nations and other friendly nations.
All those who wants to help should go through UN. What’s wrong with that. Don’t they trust United Nations and its agencies, The WHY?

Aid started arriving to Myanmar and they are distributed. This we are seeing on the world TV channels. They are saying something else and showing something else. .

Who are these ? You know and I know. But the animals can not know the human affairs.

In my view, what SPDC is doping is nothing new. Just protecting and defending tye nation and the people, in anyway it can. Myanmars must understand.

Now they are talking about SPDC inefficiency as and excuse for the aid not reaching to other parts. You know and I know the situation, transportation and communication are very difficult. International community does not want to know that . They only want to get to the disaster area.

United States of America did not allow any Tom Dick and Harry into his country. No matter who or what he/ she is.

United States is building a wall between US and Mexico to stop Mexican and other immigrants into its country. If anybody want to go into America, they are subject to its laws, rules , regulation and producers. They have their Air Marshal on almost every plane .

Myanmar is a sovereign nation, with laws and rules and regulations and procedures.
It is a civilised nation with civilised people the same as United States , the same as any other country in the world. Why can’t they respect that. Whay do they always want to bully others. Who are they , are they GODs?

Those who accuses Myanmar for breaking the international laws or norms are those who themselves are breaking every laws of the world or laws of United Nations They are the ones who wants to break the laws of other sovereign nation. .

Polaris , Myanmar is not doing any thing wrong. In this case or any other case. Myanmar is only defending itself from malicious attacks from everybody. Myanmar is not attacking anybody. It is carefully handling and dealing with situation. Everything should be under control. Every human being should know that.

My learned friend, this Myanmar disaster is a very good opportunity for international community to hide their inability , inefficiency in dealing with others crisis in the middle east. Afghanistan, Iraq or Palestinian and Jews.( Israel) Do you also know that Brit and US are sending more and more troops to Iraq and Afghanista, You will know this only when you are in this part of the world.

No matter what SPDC is doing, they are those who are provoking and they are those who wants confrontation. This disaster is not planed , but their ideas are well planned , they were just waiting for the opportunity. Here they are.

Two US military attaché were expelled from Moscow on the day Putin took over as Prime Minister.

Polaris. it is not SPDC which is not allowing as I have said above , SPDC’s arms were wide open , they kicked the chest of SPDC with full force. They came in rushing , they don’t want SPDC to check anything , they would not allow SPDC to check. They are untouchables . Nobody must touch them nobody must search them . These attitudes are not the attitude of civilised people. And yet they call themselves civilised people.

I only hope you can understand more what the international community are trying to do. Whether they like it or not SPDC is the government and SPDC is ruling the country. There are laws, rules regulation and procedures, I don’t have to say more.

Would they let us go into their respective and do what we like ?

Foreign correspondents getting into Myanmar without visa, illegally entering and meet Kayin and Mon refugees who are on opposition side at the border area. Filing all false news on false information. That is how, the job on Iraq was done.

At the moment , Myanmars are suffering. Why are they suffering ? Is it because of SPDC ? Is it because of international community? Is this the curse and spell of Ma Su Kyi or is it the punishments of God for being so ignorant ? What is it?

Regards,

Thunderbolts.

Nayting,

What you think of me is irrelevent. I am who I am, I am what I am. There is nothing you can do about it. You and I are too far apart . So don't worry.

You can think about me anything you like. It does not matter. I do what I believe. Do you believe in something? Don't waste your time on me thinking about me, surely you must have some other important things to do then wasting your precious time on me.

If United States of America and United Kingdom had to listen to the comments by the people like you they would not be in Iraq.

You can speak for anybody you want, but not for me. Because I have my own mouth to speak. You may be representing a group of traitors. A traitor is always a traitor. May be these people in your group are those who are responsible for what happened in the past and SPDC and the people are now paying the debts they owed to the nation and the people . Have you thought of that?

You speak for them, speak for them nobody is stopping you. They may not have their own mouth to speak. That's the problem with some Myanmars, you see that is the culture of some Myanmars. They speak with hire mouth. They let others to do their dirty works. How much they pay you to speak for them?

You speak like a Kayin or Mon insurgent. I am not surprise. I don't care.

By the way, you express your view, I express my view. Is there anything wrong in that?

I don't think it's me who is smelling Nayting, it could be your own mouth, your teeth and your gum, which is faul and which is smelling, because you use your mouth too much speaking for others, not even for yourself.

Where do I sent mouth cleansing liquid or tooth paste and brush. If not you better go and check with the dentist, quick.

Everybody must be certain of what they are saying, why can't I be certain. of what I am saying? Are you certain of what you are saying?

Only God can create this kind of disaster. God did not punish the innocent on. He punished only the sinners. When I said it you won't like it would you? I am referimng to the Bible.

People have to pay. they have to suffer, not for nothing. They must have upset the God or Gods.

If you are a Christian you will know, If you are a Buddhist you will also know. Ask any clergy man with knowledge. There must be someone in your group. who knows. They are not from the streets are they?

Why don't you speak for yourself?

Thanks,

Thunderbolts.

thunderbolts,

Not only to lead, but also I am a Chief Strategist. I order/plan my troops/forces as "stand by" mode and fully prepared to take action if needed. My Naval Forces are ready to take action in short notice. Fully armed with deadly weapons including Nuclear capability. I can crush the enemy/adversary any time any place any where. Forget about Naypyitaw. Even bunkers in Putao is not safe for it is within my missiles (bunker busters) range. In fact, I really don't need to use my troops in crushing the enemy/adversary. My missiles and my fleet of advanced radar dodging stealth technology fighter planes can do the job done deal efficiently and effectively. All my ships are ready to take on the job whenever it is necessary on a fraction of a moment notice. Only fools and idiots will confront my forces for if they foolishly do, they will be history and turn into ashes.

This much I will say as a Chief Strategist. In Myanmar case, it is so easy and convenient for all I had to do is take out the top brass/circle and the people (they hated them) and their younger officers (waiting for the opportunity) will finished off the rest of the job. In other words, all I had to do is to take out a handful of fools or "start" (initiate) a project and the people of Myanmar will carry on and finish up the rest/task.

By the way, my troops are well trained, well equipped (with advance gagets), well informed, well educated, well prepared, highly motivated and most of all they are deadly professionals in carrying out their duty and get the job done quickly, deadly and efficiently/effectively.




thunderbolts wrote:

QUOTE:
Zynnyaw,

You should lead them like Ko Aung San led the Japanese.

This time you will come out from the other side in a tin, my hero!

Hi ZynnYaw,

Congratulations! From a small forked wing little bird (swallow) with squeaky chirp, you have risen to a new height in life, promoted to be the Chief Strategist and in charge of a mighty naval Task Force. By your own account, composition of ships, lethal weapons and the fire power of the forces under your command sound ‘Awesome’. You describe the material hardware as ‘my naval forces’, ‘my missiles’, and ‘my fleet/my ships’. I am pretty sure and have no doubt whatsoever that your opponents and enemies must be shaking in their pants or longyis because of your saber rattling. The former Secretary of Defense Mr. Run-fled must have promoted and entrusted this enormous assignment to you before he was kicked in the ass.

When I was young I like reading about WWII episodes and naval battles. Recently, in Australia, they found HMAS Sydney, a battle cruiser at the bottom of Indian Ocean just off Western Australia coastline, sunk by a German Raider ship called the Cormorant (a bird with great appetite). I have read quite a few famous naval battles too, Tripitz sunk off Tromso in the Artic circle by British midget submarines. Graf Spee ‘The battle of River Plate’ at the River Plate in Argentina. ‘Sink the Bismark’ episode sunk by the British Atlantic fleet.

So you are now an Admiral, so may I address you as Admiral ZynnYaw. Your command HQ will be on a flag ship USS Swallow (zynnyaw). To my knowledge, there is the Sixth Fleet stationed in the Mediterranean Area and the Seventh Fleet guarding the Pacific Region. Which fleet are you in command? Your fleet must be poised off the Tanintharyi coast ready to strike at any moment, waiting for orders from the Master to deliver a deadly, quick, efficient/effective and lethal blow. As Mr. Run-fled said just before the invasion of Iraq War ‘Shock and Awe’ I pity those at the receiving end.

By the way, are you part of Cent COM (Central Command), Sitcom (Situation Comedy) or Sickcom (Sick-in-the-head Command)? Everyone in the AO Forum would love to know and read of your adventurous escapades.

If you can’t tell us of which Command and Fleet you are in charge, then we must assume, it is not in this earthly world, but on an imagery planet created in your own psychotic mind. Playing with tin soldiers, tanks, planes and ships, set out on a table, maneuvering and moving, playing war games can so much fun. Beyond that and when it get too much over the top, then you may need to seek and consult a psychiatrist to check it out, before you ultimately end up in a Cuckoo Nest or Asylum and finally in a straightjacket.

I enjoyed reading this post and it is really funny.

I am Polaris.

Thunderbolts,

The reason my breakfast comes up so easily when I think about the Myanmar military and you is I see such poor human values.

For example, lets imaging you have a young son who swings on a swing, falls down and breaks his leg, cries in pain and fear and makes a face that looks like a water fountain.

You see this happen and since you were in the middle of making dinner you choose to walk into your house and cook dinner.

There are parts of the Myanmar constitution that deal with this kind of situation written in the Tatmadaw section as follows:

4. The Tatmadaw must play a leading role in safeguarding the Union of Myanmar against all internal and external dangers. The Tatmadaw is the core armed forces for national defence.

and

14. The Tatmadaw must render assistance to the people in case of the occurrence of a calamity in the nation that affects the nation and the people.

So you see Thunderbolts the fact that an Indian weather station warned Burma-Myanmar in advance of the cyclone and Burma-Myanmar chose not to raise the alarm and prepare and evacuate the south from the water surge. The fact that the army is choosing to ignore most foreign aid, and assistance and have many of it's soldier's present at voting stations instead of helping the desperate situation in the south. The fact that the Myanmar government writes a controversial constitution and then basically ignores their own rules. That tells me something about your values Thunderbolts and the values of the Myanmar military.

Right now it is the people and the monks who are clearing the streets and feeding the hungry. Where are the army guys now in this time of need. I wonder"

If I were in your shoes I would find a way to order all 400,000 army guys to get water, food, shelter and medicine to the south and save one or two million people from their suffering and their death.

I would encourage the entire nation to open their homes to refugees from the south feed them and care for them.

And when all that is done I would find out which miserable members of the Myanmar Army broke the spirit of their own proposed constitution before it was even voted on.

Now this idea of yours that I speak for traitors who pay me. Where is that coming from in your blog on "This is humanitarian matters , not politic". I speak for straight out common sense in a Burma-Myanmar national emergency. I speak for a constitution that would embrace a bright future for the good people of Burma-Myanmar and shakes the miserable army off their backs once and for good. Army's are designed for emergencies and protection not for parliament.

That is why I speak for Burmese people because you and your army spend your days
figuring out ways to shut them up.

If you and I stand next to each other in your garden do we choose to fight with fists, fix the dinner or help your boy. I am for helping your boy Thunderbolts. So what do you and your little Myanmar military wish to do today? What's you choice Thunderbolts?

nayting

Nayting,

You were reffering to Chapter 7 sactions 339 0r section 341 of the New Constitution. There is nothing wrong with them.

Chapter 12 which is the right to amend the constitution saying what to do, how to do where to do,if anybody want to amend the constitution or parts of it.

How can you be so think. There are your rights

To begin with , you are given the rights to vote YES to accept or NO to reject the New Constitution.

Have you exercised your rights which you have been longing for all these long years, or you have blown it again? Telling lies to yourself will not help you., not the copuntry not the people.

Why can't you do just one thing right in your life?

You should get back to Myanmar if possible, and start a new political party for the next election or join any other political party and try and amend the constitution or draft the better one to the need of the people. Do something for Myanmar and its people. That's the way to do it.

For the moment stop being a " Bay Htaing - Bine Kya - Bu Pyaw " person. You will get nowhere.

Thunderbolts