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WAS IT A PRAYER, OR A CURSE OR A SPELL ? 3 Months, 4 Weeks ago
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Dear Patriots,
In the past Ma Su Kyi has prayed. “ If I try to build up the country for prosperty and development, if I can work for the benefit of our religion and our nation, may my work be successful. If they (SLORC/SPDC) have a chance to work for the benefit of their religion and the nation , may their work be more successful”.
After that prayer she was and is making sure SLORC/SPDC has no chance to work for the benefit of their religion and the nation , their work to be more successful.
Was it a prayer or a curse or a spell on SPDC or on Myanmar?
Then why was she praying like that? Does she believe in any religion. If so what religion? Why is she blocking every chance for SPDC to work for the benefit of the people and the nation, by supporting the economic sanctions, She denied that NLD and she did not call for sanctions. Why did she not object to it then? Bec ause hse said that she and NLD are supporting the economic sanctions. So be it.
She can give any answer to justify her actions. People don’t believe her any more, people don’t trust her any more , people have no confidence in her any more. She is experiencing, she will be experiencing more. That justifies SPDC to put her in protective custody.
According to Buddhism, when she is making peoples life difficult, including SPDC, she will have her life difficult. If she hold people the hostage, she herself will be held as hostage. If she makes things difficult for SPDC to govern the country, it will be difficult for NLD to government the country.
Myanmar saying is, " Myint Zay Jin Lo - Palin Baw Tin - Myint De So Pyi Khon Cha " That is nobody else But Ma Su Kyi. She was in a kind of heaven in England , now she came to the hell in the Awizi, by her own choice. By the look of it she will escape from there only when next Buddha comes.
How wcould she be so worked up?
Let us look at Economy and Social developments of Myanmar, truthfully. To see who is right or wrong without elaborating , exaggeration.
Myanmar is an agricultural country, by nature. Most of this sector is till in the manual stage.( Let Mhu Leyar ). Since redistribution of the land during successive governments, especially under BSPP , the most each peasant will run will be 20 acre of land which will give them 1000 basket of rice per year. Equipments such as the plough and cattle are essential . Most peasants cannot afford these things . Government loan them money as subsidiaries called Amadaw Jay . To pay back the money in easy terms in cash or with the product (rice). The government also buy the rice directly from the peasant.
During BSPP, among others things the government introduced Kubota plough machines as well as tractors, to be able to call Set Mhu Leyar to industrialise this sector.
Now the peasant can sell their product freely after they pay back their loan to the government or some percentage of rice as repayment to the government.
Among a few reasons there are at least three main reasons why the government buy the rice and accept it as payments. One is to export, another is for the use of the Tatmadaw , and another is for to store for the emergencies.
Agricultural sector especially is developing from seasonal crops ( Moe Zabar )to all season crops( Yey Thwin Zabar) . From Ta Thee sar to Nha Thee Sar and to Thone Thee Sar in some places ( from one crop to two or three crops.) Not to forget, many Thee Htutt and Thee Nhyutt of other kind of vegetables. In anyn space. Myanmar are blessed, they are gifted with fertile land and a rich country.
Today there are private rice merchants paying top price for the respective rice. And selling with top price for the rice when they sell back to the consumers. Peasants are earning more money and they are still poor.#
Government Ministry of Agricultural and fisheries as well as agricultural research institute are doing their best in this sector. That is why Myanmars are not starving like some of those people in some African countries.
To industrialise this sector has been slowing down due to economic sanction which NLD and Ma Su Kyi supported ( their own words) the peasants are almost beck to manual labour ( Mi Mway Dine- Pha Mway Dine) because no Kubota machines or trackers can be imported into Myanmar, fertiliser. including things related to cattle farming as much as Myanmar needed.
There are many things to do to develop this sector. Myanmar cannot dream of having combined harvest on 20 acres of cultivated plot of land. Heavy machineries are not suitable for soft soil as in Myanmar.
Because under this economic sanctions, Myanmar is being denied foreign investments, loans, aid and means and ways to earn revenues it needed to develop the nation As Myanmar at the moment depends on agriculture.
Because of economic sanctions Myanmar cannot do very much to develop the nation, let along to be modern.
Myanmar cannot take care of its peoples essential needs, health, education, housing and social services as much as it needs to. .
Myanmar can not generate electricity , through solar power, wind power, hydro electric power , if not nuclear power, because Myanmar needs respective generators.
Myanmar’s transportation needs to develop more, roads, trains, cars and planes. we need them ships and boats..
Communications land lines , mobile or cell phones . satellite. computers and their net works.
Myanmar is rich with at least 50 different minerals including gold and silver. Most of them are all under the ground. We need to bring them up.
As far as fuel is concerned Myanmar has plenty of gas and oil , but to bring them up above the ground, we need investments.
With a limited source of earnings as finance , Myanmar can only do a limited development , only a limited progress.
Without necessary economic freedom, we can not have economic developments, we cannot expect political and social developments.
The west is denying the rights of Myanmar as a nation and the rights , human rights of the people of Myanmar. Worse of all Ma Su Kyi and NLD is denying the human rights of the people of Myanmar, as well as the rights of Myanmars and the other business community of the world, who would like to invest in Myanmar to develop Myanmar to make a buck or two for themselves.
Foreigners can invest in Myanmar as joint venture with the government or with the business people from the public sector.
The investments have to come from the public, any public. This public has to contributing as tax will go into the coffer and it will channel to the needed sector of the industry. Any Government whoever it is , cannot help any body if it has no revenue. When its ways of earning the revenues are being blocked
The the price of the mistakes of Ma Su Kyi will not be pay by Ma Su Kyi or this generation, it will be paid by next genaration after Ma Su Kyi has long gone, Does she know that? How long will she live?
What Ma Su Kyi doing is killing Myanmars softly. Because she cannot be the big boss. When will Ma Su Kyi realise that Myanmars do not need anymore DICTATORS. When will she realise that Myanmar needs performers, not the personality, celebrities anymore. In simple language Myanmar is in need of workers, not talkers.
Regards,
Thunderbolts.
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Re:WAS IT A PRAYER, OR A CURSE OR A SPELL ? 3 Months, 2 Weeks ago
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Dear Thunderbolts,
“Was it a prayer, or a curse or a spell”, you have hit another bulls eye with this post. “Myanmar saying: “Kyar Kyar Wha, Khar Mann Thi”, the more you keep chewing, the taste becomes bitterer. In short, the more you look into Ma Suu Kyi and NLD’s performance and behavior; I can only come to a conclusion that they are holding hostage to Myanmar and its people.
Of course, she has a lot Crocodile Tears stored. Now NLD in regard to May Referendum has come out encouraging the People to cast their votes with ‘NO”. Well, it is a free world; Freedom of Speech, Freedom of Choice etc. etc... The only question is ‘What Next’. Do you have a Plan B or an alternative dynamic and pragmatic strategy to get the Country moving forward? Is there going to be another repeat of 1988 or September 2007 (Saffron Revolution). There are many brave Armchair Generals living outside of Myanmar beating war drums from their safe and cozy abode while enjoying a good lifestyle with their families. They will instigate and send innocent people as canon fodder on their behalf.
Or drag on for another 20 years for the people to suffer emotionally, economically, socially etc while these Fat Cats abroad are enjoying with Political Handouts.
When I saw another bird called ‘Shwe Kyee’ on the Forum, I was happy to have a peek at his post. ‘Shwe’is Gold, a yellow precious and valuable metal. But ‘Kyee’ is a black bird with a rough-sounding call. Well, he did not contribute one bit of intelligent or meaningful information for us to learn from him. He started using abusive words and languages, which I am sure, his parents would not have taught him or brought him up in this manner.
ha ha ha! I'm sure you two fall in love. I can see clearly that you two are wanking/blowing each other. Pathetic guys. Thunderbolts (mogyothwar) posted many junk letters in this forum like a mad dog. He is just half baked (win twin yoo). Polaris is his twin brother (kyauk yoo).
He posted ’that’s democracy buddies. You can say what you think the oppositions are and the opposition has the right to tell what they think you are. Keep writing for people love laughing but some times you'll get whip’.
Persons like Shwe Kyee like to say what they like, damn you, this is our right. Well imagine for one moment, if we have these types of people in our future society of Democratic Myanmar. I am sure there will be scuffles and street fights between factions, between different Political Parties, and opposing groups, like thugs going after each other’s throat. Can you call it Democracy!
Well, what you expect coming from a bird called ‘Shwe Kyee’. ‘Shwe’ is not pure Gold but a piece of brass gold-plated. Just a Fake! ‘Kyee’ like to squawk and squawk to the extent it can become obnoxious at times.
Dear Thunderbolts, I will praise you for writing facts though it may upset who follows blindly worships the Lady. There is only one word I can describe them –‘Pathetic’
Please keep posting so that I can make my own assessments. Just ignore those who can’t contribute good factual points to the forum.
I am Polaris
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Re:WAS IT A PRAYER, OR A CURSE OR A SPELL ? 3 Months, 2 Weeks ago
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Dear Polaris,
My dear Polaris. I have mentioned many times in this forum, as well as in the old forum of ASIAOBSERVER. that Freedom of this and freedom of that are in the frame work or rules regulations laws and procedures.
Ma Su Kyi and NLD misled the people to break the laws, the U=njust laws she said.
Which law is unjust in Myanmar. All laws in Myanmar are approved by the respective parliament and signed by the Presidents of the Nation.
If laws are needed to be amended or change, it should be done by the parliament, in the parliament. You can’t break the laws until they are amended or changed , they are to be abided If you break the law, any law you will be punished by the law, nothing personnel my dear Polaris. Not because someone happened to be NLD mamber, or
Peoples’ Progressive Party or because you are an opposition.
When you are talking about war drums. It reminds of the war drums in the United States , in Canada and in Australia . The sound of these drums of indigenous people.
That is why I am telling our patriots to study the history of Myanmar to study the history of other nation to compare with Myanmar. It was not mush to ask. Because we Myanmars want to go forward, we don’t want to be legged behind. We want to be the same as other progressed and developed nations, we want to be equal.
I hope that the many brave Armchair Generals living outside of Myanmar are studying as well how those people made those countries into nations. I hope they are not sitting on their arm chairs and dozing off. And woke up with nightmares and start sleeping walking, especially they are Generals. The FAT CATS will always be FAT CATS , that is their living, In Myanmar we call them “ Achaung Thamarr “ . You cannot avoid them. But the people must know.
Everybody , I mean everybody in Myanmar is more clever than before. They are more educated then before, they have more experience than before. In 1988 causalities were
enormous compare to Sept ‘08. Drastic improvement if you want to call it that way. Instigators used the people once , they could not use them again. So they uses Buddhist Monks. I don’t think there is any more for them to use.
They should notn be instigating, others, theyn should come down and face it or confront it if they are brave enough
I don’t think they can instigate most of Myanmar people no more. Because Myanmars have open their ears and eyes more then ever. As far as the people are concerned there are two parts, which comes out of them . A Government which they will elect and they people themselves. Before they elect any on to represent them. They have to check and balance him/her.
The duties of the citizens is not finished after they have cast their votes and elected a government. They have to co operate or work hands ain hands with that government all along. The nation is everybody’s responsible not the responsibility of the Government alone. No matter what the government does , if the people do not co operate with the Government or lend hands, the Government wont survive, the people won’t survive, in the end the nation will not survive . The people have more awareness by now and they must always have their watchful eyes open on their representative, checking and balancing their works and what the people demanded from them, what the people expect of them.
That is why , NLD and Ma Su Kyi is supporting economic sanctions, that is why Ma Su Kyi and NLD calling their people, not to co operate with the Government but to break the laws. That is wicked, very dirty idea. The laws are the deterrents, to protect the people why she want to break them I don’t know./
FREEDOM. One must know the meaning of it. One must preserve it , in a right way.
FREEDOM is not chaos, not lawlessness. Some times FREEDOM could means a Government cannot control anything, so they regulate or enact laws allowing people to do what they like and they put levy on it, tax them to get revenue. They , the Governments are also doing what they like , on let the people do what they like we will do what we like. Even then that FREEDOM is in confinement, the dos and the don’ts are still there. If you break it you have to pay for it.
If you have been to so called FREE countries, you will see FREEDOM in many forms. If you know what I mean? Of course like you said, you will assess yourself.
But can we Myanmars afford FREEDOM , total FREEDOM, the cost of it? Do we know what FREEDOM are we talking about? Do we have the capability, do we have the strength, do we have the power to manipulate to exploit the FREEDOM if not abuse it? All we are seeing or experiencing is others are manipulating us , they are exploiting us in the name of FREEDOM.
There are Myanmars and demo campers living in U,S.A. Canada and Australia etc. , Have they ever thought of studying the indigenous people of those countries such as Red Indians of all races, and Aborigines. ,
Like in Myanmar I n other countries there are poor people, middle class people upper class and crust people . They all are doing what they supposed to do. They are all minding their own business, they are looking after their daily life. They are logical, they face the realities and living in real life. Greed, Anger, Craven may be there as well. But they are more or less under control. Who controls them ? They, the people themselves with their own common sense. We are Myanmars, what are we different from them. There are lots of things. Among the there are two one is our Government do not go an invade other country to make money to keep our people happy. In olden days Myanmars nay have done a bit of invasion to other country. But only neighbouring countries. They (Myanmrs) did not step over or over step others. But there were those who are better than Myanmars instead of Myanmar invading others they invaded Myanmar and made Myamars slaves.
Two , Myanmars attitude, behaviours and their mentality. They have degraded themselves down from Master Race to slave race. Yet they don’t realised that. Somebody is trying very hard to take Myanmars back to slavery, in the name of democracy in the name of human rights.
Though Myanmar as a nation is very rich with natural resources, Myanmar as people most of them are poor. It is along story to talk about it. But let me refer to one of the song writer, called Nandaw Shey Saya Tin. He said ,in one of his songs “ Tha Htay Wahda “ Myanmars are rich with Pagodas, and Monesteries but foreigners are rich with lands , cars, and houses. No matter how many times that song was played, and sang, Myanmars did not know the meaning of it.
I am not against Buddhism or any of our Myanmar traditions, culture and customs. But we have to know there is the teaching of Buddha, started “ Ahtta Hitta - Para Hitta “ you have to balance the need of you and the need of others.. We have to know the limit.
It won’t drag on for another 20 years not even another two years, I don’t think so. As I have said it, the way I understand it, this constitution is not a final one for Union of Myanmar. I know for fact as a true democratic. The one who understands essense of democracy, this constitution or any other constitution in Myanmar or in any other country is subject to amendments, That amendment has to be made in the Hluttaws
( Parliaments). It is the democratic way. Not on the streets, not at university avenue in Yangon.
I am counting on it, because I know, 1947 or 1974 Constitution were approved, there were many political groups or ethnic group missing. But we have over came. No matter how good a Constitution could be, it can never be perfect. Because the Constitution is the creation of human for humans As long as human are not perfect, the constitution will not be perfect. But there will always be rooms one after another to amend or to correct.
To be honest we do not know what to expect Polaris. It reminds of what Ko Aung San once said, “ hoping for the best, preparing for the worst.” . We are hoping for the best, if not the very best. But there can be no worse then the worst that we had. But for the worse we are already prepared since 1948 if you must know.
I think all the concern people are seeing things very clearing day by day everyday. Myanmars by nature are not senseless people you know. When you look back to their history they were once great people with great Empire. Why was it gone small? You guess is as good as mine.
Regarding the New Constitution. Ma Su Kyi and NLD said “ people do not accept it ”. What people , which people was she talking about? The people of NLD ? She may be right. But for the rest of 54 million people in Myanmar, these people must decide, they must have their human right to accept or to reject it. That is what its means by referendum. These are the people that are matters. By the way, when National Convention was held, there were people from political parties, delegates , intellectuals, academic, people from all walks of life, etc.
As I have also said , here is the chance to get rid of SPDC. And to replace with civilian rule. Tatmadaw members will not compete in elections . They will be in Hluttaws to check and balance. If two third of the majority of the Hluttaws members are united as one Tatmadaw delegates will have no time and place to shit or fart, let us put it that way. Excuse my language.
In another word, Kyee is brass.. It is yellow, You can mistaken as Gold if you do not know what is gold. There are a lot of gold, fake gold , roll gold , Leprechaun ‘s gold.
You can make an acid test if you want to know a real gold or not. Why don’t you try if in your own way if he will pass the acid test. I have tried it on him. He did not even know that. Believe me he is not Gold, not even near to it. don’t be fool by him.
The bird called Kyee, can fly , they are always alert, they know everything. But this Kyee you are talking about, does not even know, his bottom from his head.
These people in the past or at present or in the future will exit. There is nothing you or I or anybody can do about. You have to ignore the ignorant . But you have to be glad, very glad. He may be saying anything without thinking , he will be saying what comes out of his mouth but he is reading your message and mine, that is for sure. He is nervous, he is afraid, that other people might agree with us. So in his desperate attempt, as a last attempt he will launch a smear campaign against anybody who cannot agree with them, like mother like son.
Don’t be offended by him, whatever he said or came out of his mouth, those are what his mother taught him , She passed her experience to him. So you can understand this poor chap. She taught him the technique of everything, I mean every thing including smear campaign.
If you don’t mind, my suggestion is keep calm. You are far away from him. He cannot touch you. We c an take it because we are true democratic. Nobody has to tell us what our rights are, we know our rights. and we deserve these rights. According to George W Bush , there are those who deserves human rights, and there are those who does not deserve human rights.
I will tell you one thing about the one you call a Lady. I use to have a Lady in short, her full name was Lady Jane in my house as my family pet. Very clever, understand human language . But that was not a human it was a bitch. In England there are dog shows, even dog race. You see men train dogs (bitch) to do things for them to assist them in many ways. Men train dogs to use them.
These show dogs which are pedigree ( not the bastards) gets prizes, gets a lot of money, when they are picked as Champions. Then they are named as Lords or Ladies. So I don’t want you to mixed up the Ladies OK?
My dear Polaris, in Myanmar we say “ Khut Kywe Mhan Yin - Dan Yar Shi” which means, a fighting buffalo (bull) always carry wounds or at least scars. You and I or people like us, including Shwe Chee of course, are fighting buffalos( Bulls) , we will carry, wounds or scars. That is normal.
Let us look at the bright side. If the Sun sets today it will rise tomorrow. Cloud
have silver lining. The moon will shins only 15 days a month , other 15 day it goes into retreat. That is not the end of the world. Why do you bother to get up each time you hear a bark.
If you think he is unacceptable, and by bringing yourself down to his level, what will you become of you? You have to think that way. That is purely for yourself without harming anybody.
Let me put it this way. if there is no black, there will be nothing to be called white
We may not realised that, we may not accept that but we are all depending on each other. Ma Su Kyi or even our great friend Shwe Chee.
Nobody can stop me posting anything which others will benefit. This is to exchange views, speaking my mind in a right way after all it is in the interest of the nation , in the interest of the people, there is nothing for me. I don‘t need anything.
I am thinking of taking a few days off. I am going home for a few days to enjoy water festival ( Thin jan ). and to collect a few facts.
Nice talking to you, talk to you later
Thunderbolts.
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Re:WAS IT A PRAYER, OR A CURSE OR A SPELL ? 3 Months, 2 Weeks ago
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Dear Thunderbolts,
I wish you a safe and enjoyable trip to Myanmar for the Thingyan Water Festival. My reply to Shwe Kyee was to highlight his mentality, put him in the right place and exposed him for what he is. Please allow me to ask him, whether ‘Shwe Kyee’ is his real name or just another pseudo name like us using as ‘Thunderbolts’ and Polaris. According to his profile, he is 50, lives in Yangon, Burma. In Myanmar, younger people have much respect for elders. If we were married at the age of 25, our eldest son would be about his age – 50 yrs. That means we are as old as his parents. Had he been brought up in a Myanmar culture environment, I don’t think he would be as rude and uncouth as such. I also wonder how he would address his parents when he becomes dissatisfied with them. For him to call General Ne Win or U Ne Win as ‘dirty old dog dictator Ne Win’ is totally beyond me. U Ne Win was one of the Thirty Comrades who liberated Myanmar from the colonialist British yoke. Like it or not General Ne Win have done great things in his own way for the country. ‘Shwe Kyee’ was not in existence then and what valuable contribution has he made towards the country during his 50 years- None! So I think he is a fake right through out and hiding (cowardly) saying he lives in Yangon. Therefore, I like to remind him that ‘Those who live in Glass Houses should not throw stones at others’.
As for my profile everything is authentic and genuine except for my users name ‘Polaris’.
Nice talking to you and look forward to continue after your return from Myanmar.
I am Polaris
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Re:WAS IT A PRAYER, OR A CURSE OR A SPELL ? 3 Months, 2 Weeks ago
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Yes, I'm calling you "Windwin yoo" because you attacked a well known and loved persons/family with pseudonym names. You dare not to let her know who you are. Don't you realize that you are showing your fist from women's sarong. Didn't you mother teach you it is a cowardly act? I'm sure she wasn't. You don't know. Right? I strongly believe that you are gay. May be you both are women.
I'll tell you one thing to learn Gaygyi. It is not the man's way to attack a helpless woman with a secret name. You better tell her face to face. That' man's way you two cowards.
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